Double sight set ups

MoreToasties · November 15th, 2009, 00:14

Hey ASC

I have seen many set ups throughout the years with double sights, mounted one after another.

RDS + RDS, RDS + EOtech, etc.

I have always wondered what the benefit of this is.

Thanks,

-MoreToasties

ujiro · November 15th, 2009, 00:17

They are never dual sights. Its generally an RDS with a magnifier. They usually have the magnifier on a flip-to-side mount, so that they can use the RDS/holosight normally, with 0 magnification, or with 4x magnification at their leisure.

MoreToasties · November 15th, 2009, 00:19

Ah.

That would be great to have on an M4, can you link me to a magnifier?

I wasn't aware they even existed in airsoft.

ujiro · November 15th, 2009, 00:20

One sec, I'll dig up a link. I know huang here sells em too.

Here's a link: http://www.dragonredairsoft.com/airs...roductID=28819

MoreToasties · November 15th, 2009, 00:25

Great. Thanks man.

I was watching the FutureWeapons episode on the Masada and they showed that with an Eotech. I like the look =P although it would probably be very functional as well.

I think I'll talk to Huang and get one and a 553.

BTW, whats the deal with the Masada coming out? I remember someone was making one (King Arms, maybe?). Is that out yet?

GSK88 · November 15th, 2009, 00:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreToasties

Great. Thanks man.

I was watching the FutureWeapons episode on the Masada and they showed that with an Eotech. I like the look =P although it would probably be very functional as well.

I think I'll talk to Huang and get one and a 553.

BTW, whats the deal with the Masada coming out? I remember someone was making one (King Arms, maybe?). Is that out yet?

I'm pretty sure A&K make a Masada. Not 100% but I could've sworn I saw a thread where a Swede had taken a bunch of pics.

mas_oyama · November 15th, 2009, 00:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by ujiro

One sec, I'll dig up a link. I know huang here sells em too.

Here's a link: http://www.dragonredairsoft.com/airs...roductID=28819

okay I'm a total noob, but I'm wondering, wouldn't it be better to have the RDS BEFORE the magnifier? that way you would have a small red dot and your scope after it, instead of magnifing the RDS also, and see a big ass red dot in your scope??? lol

I don't know much about those, its just my first thought when I saw that...

Yannos · November 15th, 2009, 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSK88

I'm pretty sure A&K make a Masada. Not 100% but I could've sworn I saw a thread where a Swede had taken a bunch of pics.

Yup saw that too.

I'll dig the link

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aandk-mas...-licensed.html

MoreToasties · November 15th, 2009, 00:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yannos

Yup saw that too.

I'll dig the link

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aandk-mas...-licensed.html

Great, thanks.

AngelusNex · November 15th, 2009, 00:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by mas_oyama

okay I'm a total noob, but I'm wondering, wouldn't it be better to have the RDS BEFORE the magnifier? that way you would have a small red dot and your scope after it, instead of magnifing the RDS also, and see a big ass red dot in your scope??? lol

I don't know much about those, its just my first thought when I saw that...

Just an FYI, that's not how it works/ what happens, the dot stays the same size. Also, the magnifier would be too far away to use if it was like that (eye relief)

peacekeeper · November 15th, 2009, 02:41

is there anyone who can get one in from ehobby ? the masada that is.

tunabreath · November 15th, 2009, 03:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelusNex

Just an FYI, that's not how it works/ what happens, the dot stays the same size. Also, the magnifier would be too far away to use if it was like that (eye relief)

Actually, it should work like that. Theoretically, a 4 MOA dot should cover 4 inches at 100 yards, whatever the magnification. The higher the magnification, the more that 4 inches takes up proportionally.

It's important for the reticule image to scale up with the magnification if it provides any ranging or lead information, like the new EOTechs.

I'm curious why most adjustable magnification scopes don't do this, but rather just set the mil-dot scale to be accurate at only a particular magnification...

MoreToasties · November 15th, 2009, 11:07

Figures.

The day after I ask, this is announced.

http://www.tokyo-model.com.hk/ecshop/goods.php?id=5860

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazza

is there anyone who can get one in from ehobby ? the masada that is.

I don't think you're supposed to ask that in a non AVed section.

Contact a retailer who does custom imports.

Mr. G36! · November 15th, 2009, 11:15

Personally, I do Rear Iron-sight, open-style reflex RDS, Front Iron-sight. I used to just use the RDS and the front sight, but when I tried adding the rear sight to the mix, it just added a little more precision.

And, it looks bad-ass, of course.

MoreToasties · November 15th, 2009, 11:19

@ Mr. G36!

Geez, I'm so behind the airsoft times. I've only ever used a bare RDS. Does iron sights + RDS help with aiming? I would think, if the red dot is on target, you're gonna hit it, whether the iron sights are there or not.

However, I really only have experience with bare iron sights or a good scope. =P

Educate me!

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November 15th, 2009, 00:14	#1
MoreToasties Art affectionado Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: North York, Ontario	Double sight set ups Hey ASC I have seen many set ups throughout the years with double sights, mounted one after another. RDS + RDS, RDS + EOtech, etc. I have always wondered what the benefit of this is. Thanks, -MoreToasties __________________ God is a /b/tard.

November 15th, 2009, 00:17	#2
ujiro Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Burlington, ON	They are never dual sights. Its generally an RDS with a magnifier. They usually have the magnifier on a flip-to-side mount, so that they can use the RDS/holosight normally, with 0 magnification, or with 4x magnification at their leisure. __________________ I love freedom and consequently America

November 15th, 2009, 00:19	#3
MoreToasties Art affectionado Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: North York, Ontario	Ah. That would be great to have on an M4, can you link me to a magnifier? I wasn't aware they even existed in airsoft. __________________ God is a /b/tard.

November 15th, 2009, 00:20	#4
ujiro Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Burlington, ON	One sec, I'll dig up a link. I know huang here sells em too. Here's a link: http://www.dragonredairsoft.com/airs...roductID=28819 __________________ I love freedom and consequently America

November 15th, 2009, 00:25	#5
MoreToasties Art affectionado Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: North York, Ontario	Great. Thanks man. I was watching the FutureWeapons episode on the Masada and they showed that with an Eotech. I like the look =P although it would probably be very functional as well. I think I'll talk to Huang and get one and a 553. BTW, whats the deal with the Masada coming out? I remember someone was making one (King Arms, maybe?). Is that out yet? __________________ God is a /b/tard.

November 15th, 2009, 02:41	#11
peacekeeper formerly bazza Trader rating Join Date: May 2004 Location: Calgary alberta	is there anyone who can get one in from ehobby ? the masada that is.

November 15th, 2009, 11:15	#14
Mr. G36! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Beautiful Thunder Bay, where dreams become nightmares!	Personally, I do Rear Iron-sight, open-style reflex RDS, Front Iron-sight. I used to just use the RDS and the front sight, but when I tried adding the rear sight to the mix, it just added a little more precision. And, it looks bad-ass, of course. __________________ Airsoft It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt...and then it becomes sport! Last edited by Mr. G36!; November 15th, 2009 at 11:17..

November 15th, 2009, 11:19	#15
MoreToasties Art affectionado Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: North York, Ontario	@ Mr. G36! Geez, I'm so behind the airsoft times. I've only ever used a bare RDS. Does iron sights + RDS help with aiming? I would think, if the red dot is on target, you're gonna hit it, whether the iron sights are there or not. However, I really only have experience with bare iron sights or a good scope. =P Educate me! This is why I love this forum. __________________ God is a /b/tard.

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