G&G GR16 Delta Ring

IceTray · August 17th, 2009, 14:44

Alright, I'm aware the delta ring removal stuff comes up a lot, but none of the threads I read through helped.

Basically, the delta ring needs to come off, I'm installing an S.I.R on the pnueamtic GR16.

In this such manner. A few people suggested just taking off the front sights, but hey, G&G one peice front set ahoy.

So I'm basically wondering if anyone knows how to take the sucker off. I've tried a few things, nothing has worked, an I'm stumped.

This is a picture of the delta ring setup as well, incase its needed.

Appriciate the help in advance.

ex · August 17th, 2009, 15:05

You must have to take the front sight off in order to remove the fake gas tube..No?

IceTray · August 17th, 2009, 15:17

Quite possibly, but despite owning the M4 for quite a while, I've never had to remove the front, I've also never really come accross anything that explained how to remove anything in the front. Maybe I should stop relying on mechbox-com, haha.

Edit: Basically any tutorials that exist, don't outline how to do it with a one peice front end, the front sight is apart of my barrel, so it has to come off together, unfortunately. I find it moderately dumb that all the "complete dissassembly" guides for GR16's end after "Now you have the mechbox out, so you're done" Haha.

Hash Vapor · August 17th, 2009, 19:33

Just start undoing all the set screws. lol And just because your barrel is a one piece it shouldn't mean the front site is built on. Look under the sling loop on your front site, then hammer out the pins, gas tube should slide out. To remove the delta ring, just line up the notches (you'll see what I mean if you look closely) There should be two rectangle looking hole type things on opposites of the actual ring, then rotate until they line up with two notches sticking out, and the spring will push the ring upward.

IceTray · August 17th, 2009, 19:35

Surprisingly, the front barrel is one piece, with the sight, the manual even says this, haha.

Although Tys helped me out, and its possible to remove the silver piston rod through the upper receiver reciever itself, and from there it was possible to remove the front end assembly, and the delta ring.
Basically for anyone who owns the canadian legal G&G GR16, look into buying a normal front end.

Kos-Mos · August 17th, 2009, 21:16

Remove the set screws right in front of the delta ring.

Theses should be holding the barrel in place.

I have NEVER seen a 1 piece barrel/gaz block.

And I removed the front sight/gaz block on a Cansoft G&G M4-CQB.

Two pins, on the lower part. They enter two notches in the barrel.
You will need a pin punch or a something that is just a little smaller than the pin.

And a hammer. Forget about doing it with a pair of pliers. Theses are tight.

Boomshakah · August 17th, 2009, 23:44

I have some problem with my GR 16 Blowback plastica too, the front end, when pulled a little bit comes off, and shows the inner barrel. i think it miss a screw or something to hold it, ill post a picture when i can, but it really bothers me.if you have any idea how to fix it, please share, thanks.

SHaKaL · August 17th, 2009, 23:50

I have a G&G GR16A3 and the front sight is removable. As Kos-Mos sait remove the 2 pins and it will come off. Be carefull the metal is not that good and mark easily.

IceTray · August 18th, 2009, 00:02

The GR16 (pnuematic) G&G model is a whole front peice. Believe me, the pins are aesthetic, they aren't real on this model, the parts list even shows and says its one peice.

I assume these are the pins youre refering to, they have scratches, because I felt the need to prove they in fact don't come out - they got hammered. I believe this is the only model where it is one whole piece.

SHaKaL · August 18th, 2009, 00:19

Just check the manual on g&g website... i Guess you probably right... 1st time in 5 years i see that!

IceTray · August 18th, 2009, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHaKaL

Just check the manual on g&g website... i Guess you probably right... 1st time in 5 years i see that!

Be happy yours isn't the same, its proven to be quite the annoying thing to have, haha!

Boomshakah · August 19th, 2009, 17:27

If the fake gas tube is that aluminium rod, then it should come out without doing anything, gun is not fixed by this, well i think, because my front end comes off and shows inner barrell only with a slight pull.

piglet · September 2nd, 2009, 20:51

Hey IceTray, did you manage to figure out how to get the pesky Delta ring off your G&G GR16?

I have the same problem. My Delta needs replacing but I can't get it off due to the gas tube being in the way. I tried removing the outer barrel from the receiver but it won't slide out even after I removed the screws that are meant to hold it to the block in the receiver (the block is visible in your posted picture).

What I haven't tried yet is to remove the front end of the outer barrel (the outer barrel made of two parts - the front consist of the front sights and is apparently locked on to the rear part (i.e. the tube between front sight and block in the receiver) by two screws. This is because the metal piece behind the front sights is blocking my allen key from reaching the screws. But I am afraid that the tube might not come out easily even after the screws have been removed too.

If you have got any progress please let me know. Will be very grateful.

Eeyore · September 2nd, 2009, 21:12

What version is yours? I also have the G&G GR-16 and my pins came out.

piglet · September 2nd, 2009, 21:57

G&G GR16 Blowback. It is primarily plastic with metal bits but has pneumatic blowback. I believe it is the same as IceTray's.

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August 17th, 2009, 14:44	#1
IceTray Majestic Mornings rocking it like a Queen Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Windsor, ON	G&G GR16 Delta Ring Alright, I'm aware the delta ring removal stuff comes up a lot, but none of the threads I read through helped. Basically, the delta ring needs to come off, I'm installing an S.I.R on the pnueamtic GR16. In this such manner. A few people suggested just taking off the front sights, but hey, G&G one peice front set ahoy. So I'm basically wondering if anyone knows how to take the sucker off. I've tried a few things, nothing has worked, an I'm stumped. This is a picture of the delta ring setup as well, incase its needed. Appriciate the help in advance. __________________ I support Capital Airsoft! For anyone looking for age verification in the Windsor region: Unfortunately, I will only be verifying people at games, I am currently unable to run around and setup meetings. Last edited by IceTray; August 18th, 2009 at 00:03..

August 17th, 2009, 15:05	#2
ex Wanna buy some Nod's? #StolenValour Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ottawa	You must have to take the front sight off in order to remove the fake gas tube..No? __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

August 17th, 2009, 15:17	#3
IceTray Majestic Mornings rocking it like a Queen Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Windsor, ON	Quite possibly, but despite owning the M4 for quite a while, I've never had to remove the front, I've also never really come accross anything that explained how to remove anything in the front. Maybe I should stop relying on mechbox-com, haha. Edit: Basically any tutorials that exist, don't outline how to do it with a one peice front end, the front sight is apart of my barrel, so it has to come off together, unfortunately. I find it moderately dumb that all the "complete dissassembly" guides for GR16's end after "Now you have the mechbox out, so you're done" Haha. __________________ I support Capital Airsoft! For anyone looking for age verification in the Windsor region: Unfortunately, I will only be verifying people at games, I am currently unable to run around and setup meetings. Last edited by IceTray; August 17th, 2009 at 16:37..

August 17th, 2009, 19:33	#4
Hash Vapor Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto, ON	Just start undoing all the set screws. lol And just because your barrel is a one piece it shouldn't mean the front site is built on. Look under the sling loop on your front site, then hammer out the pins, gas tube should slide out. To remove the delta ring, just line up the notches (you'll see what I mean if you look closely) There should be two rectangle looking hole type things on opposites of the actual ring, then rotate until they line up with two notches sticking out, and the spring will push the ring upward. __________________ http://www.milsimempire.com

August 17th, 2009, 19:35	#5
IceTray Majestic Mornings rocking it like a Queen Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Windsor, ON	Surprisingly, the front barrel is one piece, with the sight, the manual even says this, haha. Although Tys helped me out, and its possible to remove the silver piston rod through the upper receiver reciever itself, and from there it was possible to remove the front end assembly, and the delta ring. Basically for anyone who owns the canadian legal G&G GR16, look into buying a normal front end. __________________ I support Capital Airsoft! For anyone looking for age verification in the Windsor region: Unfortunately, I will only be verifying people at games, I am currently unable to run around and setup meetings. Last edited by IceTray; August 17th, 2009 at 19:40..

August 17th, 2009, 23:44	#7
Boomshakah Trader rating Join Date: May 2009 Location: Trois Rivières, Québec	I have some problem with my GR 16 Blowback plastica too, the front end, when pulled a little bit comes off, and shows the inner barrel. i think it miss a screw or something to hold it, ill post a picture when i can, but it really bothers me.if you have any idea how to fix it, please share, thanks.

August 17th, 2009, 23:50	#8
SHaKaL Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Trois-Rivi?res	I have a G&G GR16A3 and the front sight is removable. As Kos-Mos sait remove the 2 pins and it will come off. Be carefull the metal is not that good and mark easily. __________________ HellRanger 1969-2007 LRRP FOREVER 101e 506Pir Fox Company - SHTYK NOZH

August 18th, 2009, 00:02	#9
IceTray Majestic Mornings rocking it like a Queen Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Windsor, ON	The GR16 (pnuematic) G&G model is a whole front peice. Believe me, the pins are aesthetic, they aren't real on this model, the parts list even shows and says its one peice. I assume these are the pins youre refering to, they have scratches, because I felt the need to prove they in fact don't come out - they got hammered. I believe this is the only model where it is one whole piece. __________________ I support Capital Airsoft! For anyone looking for age verification in the Windsor region: Unfortunately, I will only be verifying people at games, I am currently unable to run around and setup meetings.

August 18th, 2009, 00:19	#10
SHaKaL Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Trois-Rivi?res	Just check the manual on g&g website... i Guess you probably right... 1st time in 5 years i see that! __________________ HellRanger 1969-2007 LRRP FOREVER 101e 506Pir Fox Company - SHTYK NOZH

August 19th, 2009, 17:27	#12
Boomshakah Trader rating Join Date: May 2009 Location: Trois Rivières, Québec	If the fake gas tube is that aluminium rod, then it should come out without doing anything, gun is not fixed by this, well i think, because my front end comes off and shows inner barrell only with a slight pull.

September 2nd, 2009, 20:51	#13
piglet Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Wellington, NZ	Hey IceTray, did you manage to figure out how to get the pesky Delta ring off your G&G GR16? I have the same problem. My Delta needs replacing but I can't get it off due to the gas tube being in the way. I tried removing the outer barrel from the receiver but it won't slide out even after I removed the screws that are meant to hold it to the block in the receiver (the block is visible in your posted picture). What I haven't tried yet is to remove the front end of the outer barrel (the outer barrel made of two parts - the front consist of the front sights and is apparently locked on to the rear part (i.e. the tube between front sight and block in the receiver) by two screws. This is because the metal piece behind the front sights is blocking my allen key from reaching the screws. But I am afraid that the tube might not come out easily even after the screws have been removed too. If you have got any progress please let me know. Will be very grateful.

September 2nd, 2009, 21:57	#15
piglet Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Wellington, NZ	G&G GR16 Blowback. It is primarily plastic with metal bits but has pneumatic blowback. I believe it is the same as IceTray's.

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