M14 feeds first BB, nothing more.

youonlywish · September 21st, 2008, 22:14

Hey folks.
Let me run through the problem here.

UTG M14. plastic Mags, an old battery.

So...
The gun feeds and fires the first BB when a FULL mag is loaded, nothing more FIRES though the gun makes all the normal noises, as though it were firing. The gun will fire every round if i hold it upside down and load one at a time. When I unload the mag, 5-6 BB's fall out, loose, as normal.

The gun fires only on auto, regardless of it's selector position, but that's a separate issue. I've been meaning to do that mod where you remove that white brace to make it semi-only... but then this came up.

Is there any way to, perhaps, tighten a mag spring, to force the BB's up quicker?

Splashx · September 22nd, 2008, 18:53

do you have king arms mags?

Nova316 · September 22nd, 2008, 19:02

For your full auto business you need a new Cutoff lever

your is ground down to the point where its not catching anymore

Have u tried other mags or putting 1-2 drops of silicone into the mag

Also try this
Flash a flashlight down your magwell and look at the nozzle, fire in semi or full auto see if the nozzle returns far enough back so that you cant see it.

If it does go back far enough its your mag, Try KA or TM ones see if it makes a difference

youonlywish · September 22nd, 2008, 20:44

I have 4 plastic mags. They came with the gun. I presume they are KA. Midcaps.

I'll try lubing the mags.

I've also heard of sanding down the 'BB retainer' a few mm....

Is that in the mag well or that little clip in the mag that holds the bb's back?

Nova316 · September 22nd, 2008, 20:45

Its that little triangle thing that holds the bb's back dont sand it down to much only about 2 mm's

youonlywish · September 22nd, 2008, 20:46

On the mag right?

Could that be the issue?

I could see it, and not.

The 5-6 BB's fall out of the magwell when I unload the mag...

KNIVEZS · September 22nd, 2008, 20:48

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forum...8&st=0&start=0

youonlywish · September 22nd, 2008, 20:49

Nevermind - reading now.

youonlywish · September 22nd, 2008, 20:59

Wow, I'll try that tomorrow.

Splashx · September 23rd, 2008, 10:44

don't remove more than 2mm on the bb retainer. You can use a sharp knife to file it, fastest way.

dzik · September 23rd, 2008, 11:04

I had a similar problem with an m16. I sanded and lubed all my mags and after doing all that realized that my tappett plate was worn. All I had to do was beg Sha Do to change my tappett plate and the problem disappeared. It's a 15 dollar part.

youonlywish · September 23rd, 2008, 11:23

Gonna try out the filing today after school...

Any advice on how to lube mags?

Splashx · September 23rd, 2008, 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by youonlywish

Gonna try out the filing today after school...

Any advice on how to lube mags?

1-2 drops of light weight silicon oil in the bb travel, let stay untouched for 1 hour then, turn 90 degrees your mag, then wait 1 hour, turn 90 degrees...

to let the silicone oil go anywhere in the bb travel

dzik · September 23rd, 2008, 18:08

Just be careful when you use the mags. When you get silicone oil on your hop up rubber you will be shooting like crap. What I did was, I used some bb's and loaded the mag to the full. Then i emptied the mag onto a paper towel, wiped the bb's down and repeated the procedure for each mag.

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September 21st, 2008, 22:14	#1
youonlywish Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brantford, ON.	M14 feeds first BB, nothing more. Hey folks. Let me run through the problem here. UTG M14. plastic Mags, an old battery. So... The gun feeds and fires the first BB when a FULL mag is loaded, nothing more FIRES though the gun makes all the normal noises, as though it were firing. The gun will fire every round if i hold it upside down and load one at a time. When I unload the mag, 5-6 BB's fall out, loose, as normal. The gun fires only on auto, regardless of it's selector position, but that's a separate issue. I've been meaning to do that mod where you remove that white brace to make it semi-only... but then this came up. Is there any way to, perhaps, tighten a mag spring, to force the BB's up quicker? __________________ The Devil's Bench - Gaming Cafe, Brantford, ON.

September 22nd, 2008, 20:44	#4
youonlywish Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brantford, ON.	I have 4 plastic mags. They came with the gun. I presume they are KA. Midcaps. I'll try lubing the mags. I've also heard of sanding down the 'BB retainer' a few mm.... Is that in the mag well or that little clip in the mag that holds the bb's back? __________________ The Devil's Bench - Gaming Cafe, Brantford, ON.

September 22nd, 2008, 20:46	#6
youonlywish Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brantford, ON.	On the mag right? Could that be the issue? I could see it, and not. The 5-6 BB's fall out of the magwell when I unload the mag... __________________ The Devil's Bench - Gaming Cafe, Brantford, ON.

September 22nd, 2008, 18:53	#2
Splashx Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Near Quebec city	do you have king arms mags?

September 22nd, 2008, 19:02	#3
Nova316 Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Calgary	For your full auto business you need a new Cutoff lever your is ground down to the point where its not catching anymore Have u tried other mags or putting 1-2 drops of silicone into the mag Also try this Flash a flashlight down your magwell and look at the nozzle, fire in semi or full auto see if the nozzle returns far enough back so that you cant see it. If it does go back far enough its your mag, Try KA or TM ones see if it makes a difference

September 22nd, 2008, 20:45	#5
Nova316 Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Calgary	Its that little triangle thing that holds the bb's back dont sand it down to much only about 2 mm's

September 22nd, 2008, 20:49	#8
youonlywish Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brantford, ON.	Nevermind - reading now. __________________ The Devil's Bench - Gaming Cafe, Brantford, ON.

September 22nd, 2008, 20:59	#9
youonlywish Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brantford, ON.	Wow, I'll try that tomorrow. __________________ The Devil's Bench - Gaming Cafe, Brantford, ON.

September 23rd, 2008, 10:44	#10
Splashx Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Near Quebec city	don't remove more than 2mm on the bb retainer. You can use a sharp knife to file it, fastest way.

September 23rd, 2008, 11:04	#11
dzik Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: T.O.	Similar problem... I had a similar problem with an m16. I sanded and lubed all my mags and after doing all that realized that my tappett plate was worn. All I had to do was beg Sha Do to change my tappett plate and the problem disappeared. It's a 15 dollar part.

September 23rd, 2008, 11:23	#12
youonlywish Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brantford, ON.	Gonna try out the filing today after school... Any advice on how to lube mags? __________________ The Devil's Bench - Gaming Cafe, Brantford, ON.

September 23rd, 2008, 18:08	#14
dzik Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: T.O.	Just be careful when you use the mags. When you get silicone oil on your hop up rubber you will be shooting like crap. What I did was, I used some bb's and loaded the mag to the full. Then i emptied the mag onto a paper towel, wiped the bb's down and repeated the procedure for each mag.

M14 feeds first BB, nothing more.

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