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Old December 7th, 2007, 22:41   #1
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CIRAS Loadout

Hello all.

I'm starting to peice together another airsoft kit. A modern / multicam version, aside from my WWII Rifleman's stuff.

In terms of packing, the WWII stuff has, besides ammo, tonnes of stuff, personal effects ect.

What else is kept in a CIRAS besides Ammo / Tech Gear? For instance, what types of things, besides a map, would be kept in the Map Pouch? Is there a "packing" list of sorts I could use to see what I could start collecting?
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Old December 7th, 2007, 22:44   #2
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What is your pouch setup for the CIRAS?
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Old December 7th, 2007, 22:55   #3
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Well, so far, a bunch of M4 Ammo pouches, Map pouch, has 2 pockets, I think one is a radio pouch, and one dump pouch.

Again, forgive me, as I'm not really familiar with modern stuff, the ww2 stuff is simple...

I'm looking basically to get a 'kit' together that represents the life, not so much just the fight, of a soldier.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 23:16   #4
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i use the map pouch, m4 pouches, radio pouch, medkit pouch for another bag of ammo, gernade pouch for my gps; and a dump pouch
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Old December 8th, 2007, 04:00   #5
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I've got my 4 triple mag pouches, a general purpose for food, glowsticks, anything I may need. Small utility pouch for lighter and flashlight, knife, my vest has a built in hydrapack, and I used the pouches inside the vest for maps, recon wrap and toque. Anything that I'll use later on but isn't combat critical I keep in my rucksack.
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Old December 8th, 2007, 04:10   #6
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In all fairness I think you have pretty much everything you need. Id just grab a medic/utility pouch(es) depending on the extra amount of stuff you may want to carry, ie NVGs, extra bag of ammo, claymore?

Edit: oh...also, canteen pouch? or hydration pouch.

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Old December 8th, 2007, 06:33   #7
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Well, he wants to represent the 'life' of a soldier as opposed to just a 'fight', which means 3rd line gear, which he has none of.
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Old December 8th, 2007, 09:44   #8
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3rd line gear?

Sorry, but I'm not familiar with that term...

Care to elaborate?
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Old December 8th, 2007, 12:00   #9
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Here are some ideas:
Magazines
Frags
Hydration
Communications
First Aid
General Purpose for Maps and other stuff
A place to store empty magazines (dump)

The CIRAS has purpose built pouches for all of this stuff, there are plenty of replicas out there too.

If you're concerned with a backpack (3rd line), I wouldn't recommend anything bigger than a 3 day assault pack.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 17:17   #10
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I would definitely say:
Map or Admin pouch
Mags
Hydration
First Aid
Communiications

just for the very basic stuff. A CIRAS, be it land or maritime, is very different from any WWII stuff. Aside from the fact that it holds hard plates AND soft armour, I think there is a heck of alot more real estate. Also, if you are used to playing with WWII gear that is very basic and utilizes a backpack for most things, a CIRAS may be a bit bulky for you. Here is the loadout that I am setting up...

CIRAS Maritime:
Admin pouch w/ map, pens, leatherman, and other slim tools that I carry
Mags 4xM4 doubles (holds 8 total)
General utility for extra BBs and whatever else needs a home
Hydration 100oz bladder
40mms x6
Frag x2
Flashbang x2 (I have a gas charger that replicates a flashbang)
Knife

I also utilize a belt with PALS all around and subloads. I was told that SF operatives keep alot of very important and redundant things on their belt/subload in case they have to drop the armour in a tight situation. It's a little excessive for airsoft (Im sure youre not goona jump in water with your gear on), but I like the look...

Belt/Subloads:
First Aid
Communiications
Dump Pouch
Pistol
Pistol Mags x4
Silencer for pistol
2 Double M4 Mags (4 mags total)

Hope this helps you out man!
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Old December 12th, 2007, 17:24   #11
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3rd line gear?

Sorry, but I'm not familiar with that term...

Care to elaborate?
3rd line is sustainment gear, things that keep you going for longer periods of time in the field. 3rd line also includes kit purposed for a specific task.

3rd line gear includes bergens, etc. and specialized equipment.
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Old December 13th, 2007, 00:02   #12
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3rd line gear is a must if you wanna have a prolonged game or if you plan to set up claymores and such...I just convinced the girlfriend person to get me this in multicam:

http://www.specopstech.com/store/com...idProduct=1549

I am pretty stoked and have already put together all the gear I wanna put inside it!
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Old December 13th, 2007, 00:14   #13
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Nice pack pOkiE

Doc Dungey, ill spin the terms for you quick
1st Line is your CIRAS/Chest items
2nd line is your pistol belt with items
3rd line is backpack and other stuff
(if im wrong with something here let me know guys)

PS: Good to see your keeping the WW2 Kit, cause your our medic and all...and were kinda FUBAR without you!
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Old December 13th, 2007, 01:11   #14
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Nice pack pOkiE

Doc Dungey, ill spin the terms for you quick
1st Line is your CIRAS/Chest items
2nd line is your pistol belt with items
3rd line is backpack and other stuff

(if im wrong with something here let me know guys)

PS: Good to see your keeping the WW2 Kit, cause your our medic and all...and were kinda FUBAR without you!



Your first line kit are the bare essentials that will see you through to fight another day. This includes your pistol, magazines for rifle and pistol, E&E kit, some water and sustainment food, and the like. Smoke grenade, knife, multi-tool, signaling device and FAK are probably good ideas too.

Your second line kit is the rig that brings the immediate noise. It will consist of everything you require to complete a task at hand (unless you require specialized equipment, like breaching tools) and execute the fight without being overly cumbersome. Usually this will consist of some sort of chest rig or vest, holding ammo and munitions, a high-powered communication device, and greater quantities of other sustainment items like food and water. A blow-out kit and other mission tools, like GPS and NOD, should also be on this line.

Your third line will consist of everything not immediately necessary for your survival (mission notwithstanding). Think of it as your treasure trove to sustain an indefinite fight. This includes even more ammo, usually loose rounds and loaded magazines, overnight kit, extra clothing items, advanced medical support (if you have that role), water and purification items, other communication devices, and other interesting things you may require during your mission but don't expect to immediately use.
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Old December 13th, 2007, 17:18   #15
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Thanks for the clarification Groombug
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