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Old March 29th, 2014, 18:23   #1
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attack of the hot mosfet

Gates SSR pico gets real hot fast, powered by a Tenergy 11.1v 1000mah 20c battery.
The heatshrink gets goo-ey. Share your thoughts, is this normal?
too much power for it? Its 16ga silver wire + deans
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Old March 29th, 2014, 18:24   #2
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Might help to list your setup

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Old March 29th, 2014, 18:26   #3
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Might help to list your setup

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KWA stock motor pulling 18:1 on an m90
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Old March 29th, 2014, 18:35   #4
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That doesn't sound right.
What RoF are you getting, are you sure the shimming is right? Do you have a multimeter?
I've seen a few lemons and I ALWAYS get RoF drops when I use them, but I did run one to 39 RPS at 340 FPS without it getting warm.

I don't know a lot about electronics, maybe Stealth can chime in.
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Old March 29th, 2014, 18:53   #5
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way too hot... you have some excessive current draw going on... I'd check the shimming. The pico fets shouldn't get that hot... on top of that, it shouldn't get hot enough to damage the heatshrink.
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Old March 30th, 2014, 02:00   #6
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That doesn't sound right.
What RoF are you getting, are you sure the shimming is right? Do you have a multimeter?
I've seen a few lemons and I ALWAYS get RoF drops when I use them, but I did run one to 39 RPS at 340 FPS without it getting warm.

27 rps @ around 290fps. GBBR shimmed it. I've yet to pick up a multimeter
40rps and 340fps is what I'd like!
Here it comes, my trigger is a microswitch
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Old March 30th, 2014, 04:56   #7
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27 rps @ around 290fps. GBBR shimmed it. I've yet to pick up a multimeter
40rps and 340fps is what I'd like!
Here it comes, my trigger is a microswitch
The PicoSSRs aren't made for microswitches and will burn out.

In fact, most Mosfets on the market aren't for microswitches.

For those interested in more technical reading: http://extreme-fire.com/Micro-Switch-Bounce.pdf

John

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Old March 30th, 2014, 16:21   #8
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The PicoSSRs aren't made for microswitches and will burn out.

In fact, most Mosfets on the market aren't for microswitches.
There Must be something compatible with Microswitches.
I really don't want to scrap a gun because of this
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Old March 30th, 2014, 16:47   #9
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extreme fire has a microswitch denouncer iirc but they're so bad why bother.
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Old March 30th, 2014, 16:52   #10
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the bouncing of the microswitch causes the mosfet to flip on and off very rapidly

You could try buying a much higher quality microswitch, I bet they're less than $8 lol
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Old March 30th, 2014, 17:05   #11
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the bouncing of the microswitch causes the mosfet to flip on and off very rapidly

You could try buying a much higher quality microswitch, I bet they're less than $8 lol
Try and find a quality switch, it sounds so simple :P
This has been such a pain in my @$$ lol
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Old March 30th, 2014, 17:36   #12
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yeah well, next time don't buy a gun with a microswitch lol
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Old March 30th, 2014, 17:55   #13
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If you read the doc Stealth linked, it shows you what you should look in a Microswitch. It also gives a part number to help.

Here's the one Gandolf used in his test: http://www.digikey.ca/product-search...=V7-1S17D8-022

I'm sure with a bit of Google-fu, you can find out the best one for you.
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Old March 30th, 2014, 19:35   #14
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yeah well, next time don't buy a gun with a microswitch lol
I definitely will NOT.
I'm goin with a g&g.
This current p.o.s will be returned to stock and given a 7.4. Loaner gun from meow on
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Old April 1st, 2014, 16:55   #15
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Are you still using the micro switches from Active Surplus in Toronto and rated for 11 amps?
Have you tried an OMRON V7-1S17D8-022 ?
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