Is ARES the only quick change spring gearbox manufacterer?

[JerryMcGoulBerry]

So I love quick change spring gear box's but everybody at the field I go to say that ARES is garbage, so is there a quick spring change gearbox's out there tht arent ARES? and one that I can get in canada.

[Fong242]

Ics l85 serie has quick change spring but it's a custom gb I.e. Not v2, v3, v6, etc.

[Rusty Lugnuts]

unless i'm mistaken, ICS makes an m4 that has a Two piece gearbox so changing the spring is a snap. I believe that the gears, trigger assembly, motor, wiring stay in the lower half of the gun , the spring and piston come off with the front section, . I'm not sure because my son has never had to take his apart.

[venture]

Originally Posted by Rusty Lugnuts

unless i'm mistaken, ICS makes an m4 that has a Two piece gearbox so changing the spring is a snap. I believe that the gears, trigger assembly, motor, wiring stay in the lower half of the gun , the spring and piston come off with the front section, . I'm not sure because my son has never had to take his apart.

Exactly, the ics split gearbox is not exactly a quick change, but it is very to do a spring change.

[theshaneler]

CA m249 has it
and lets not forget the Systema PTW

[m102404]

There's also the "old" prowin mechbox shells...and the "new" cnc'd one where the back end is unscrewed and the spring removed (sort of like the 249 setup). (can't vouch for the new one...I've never used it)

There's the CTW clone of the PTW as well.

IMO, the quick change CA/clone 249 and PTW quick changes rule. Not necessarily because of how well they quick change a spring, but because of how well the entire setup/gun works (spring change or not).

I know there are big ICS fans out there...but I'm not one of them. Just my own opinion.

So far as "quick power level changes"...the fastest is to have an indoor gun and an outdoor gun good to go. Obviously time and expense. Because you have to reset your hopup anyways (and maybe rezero a bit) having two full lowers setup for the same upper is another option.

Since the whole point of quick change springs is to alter the FPS...there are other ways to do it:
- velocity reducer (universally frowned upon as not trustworthy)
- alter inner barrel length...I had a setup where my CQB barrel length shot 340fps and if I swapped in my "outdoor" hopup/longer-inner-barrel it shot 385fps. Just split the gun, pull out the hopup/barrel combo and drop in the other one. For the longer inner I'd put a silencer or barrel extension on the gun.
- there's also that adjustable piston head thing...that "leaks" more or less air to set the velocity. I've never used that so no comment. Concept is sound though for most setups

[Silverthorn]

Real Sword Type 97B (and I assume type 97) have a quick change system.

[Danke]

Ares isn't really garbage. The just tend to use their own parts that when something breaks it can be an exercise in frustration to replace.

Everything from every brand breaks down or fails so that can be a real concern.

They have a distributor here in Canada now who say they'll hold parts but it's still wait and see.

I don't swap springs in my Ares SR-25, but pulling the spring out before you open the mech box sure makes that less of a hassle!

[skalnok]

i can honestly say the ares g36 models are pretty good internally, i havent had a single problem with either of mine ( had one for a year and a half now ).

apparently it is one of their best models.

[ratnest]

g2010 is quick change