CADPAT-TW Uniform

Cbielak · May 24th, 2012, 10:47

I've got some questions about where to get the best CADPAT uniforms. I came across 2 websites, cpgear and flecktarn.co.uk. Questions:

1. Which is better? They are relatively similarly priced, what are the differences?

2. Do they use genuine CADPAT material? (without IR of course) Do they make the uniforms themselves? Or do they buy them from Frontenac for example?
(I noticed the cpgear uniforms are darker than flecktarn.co.uk)

I emailed both and they told me that they have no material at the moment so size selection is limited. They will however be restocked sometime in the late summer/fall.

ShelledPants · May 24th, 2012, 10:57

From Flecktarn.co.uk

Quote:

Combat tunic in current Canadian digital camouflage pattern (CADPAT). Combat tunic is made in Canada, by a major contractor to the Canadian Department of National Defence.

CP gear is not issued, but it is damn good gear from all of the accounts I've heard.

PrIeSt · May 24th, 2012, 13:25

Don't bother buying te issued shit. I'm gonna be selling off a kiss cadpat vest soon if your interested hit me up.

The repro clothes from cp are pretty good. I think the flack tarn is surplus issued.

Cbielak · May 24th, 2012, 16:50

Hmm. Good to know. I'm not planning on getting anything issue, just looking for the real Cadpat material so that all the colours are correct. I already have a CF style Cadpat vest so all I need is a uniform.

Mordarski J.A. · May 24th, 2012, 21:11

Flecktarn's CADPAT is knock-off BDU's. They are made using the actual CADPAT pattern (manufactured by Frontenac) but are in the general "BDU" configuration rather than the Canadian design. CP Gear is a good source too, however they are offering the exact same uniform (also manufactured by Frontenac). There is also no difference in the weight of the Frontenac uniform and the issued uniform, the difference is the lack of IRR material in the civilian version.

If you have any Polish gear, I still have a few pieces in my collection I am willing to let go of (assuming they'll fit).

Hope this helps some!

PrIeSt · May 24th, 2012, 22:17

Good to know. Were moving to "bdu"style cadpat anyway. So all be te same soon!

Conker · May 24th, 2012, 22:43

What Skeletor said.

To be a little more detailed, "BDU" is the US cut from the 80's-90' (there were a couple variants in that timeframe, but not much), while the one the CF is moving to is the new "ACU" cut with mandarin collar, arm pockets and velcro, etc...

ACU (Army Combat Uniform) being the uniform cut, and NOT the camo (which is UCP; Universal Camo Pattern).

PrIeSt · May 25th, 2012, 10:17

Too be precise if were going to. Were going with "ICU"
Since this country can't just go mainstream and we must make everything unique. and there for usually twice the cost and the same or less quality

But if your looking to replicate the new soldier. Your also going to want brown boots, not black!
http://soldiersystems.net/2011/07/08...ombat-uniform/

http://soldiersystems.net/2011/05/25...s-brown-boots/

Mordarski J.A. · May 28th, 2012, 22:38

LOL "Intensive Care Unit"....and using UGLY boots.

Sorry, the soldier in me still prefers the ol' Mk3 combat boots. I can't say as though I'm a fan of the Mandarin collar, but if it's something that works (and works well) then all the power to 'em. Besides, I got out in 2007.....I don't have to wear that stuff LOL. I'm happy with my OD's!

Grey Ops · May 28th, 2012, 23:09

Sending you a PM about some stuff I stock Cbielak.

PrIeSt · May 28th, 2012, 23:11

Well from what I've seen and heard. All of the CF using purchased boots will be SOL.
Without a chit you will be required to wear Brown... So untill SWAT etc. get on board with a brown boot and a brown safety boot for those who require safety. Your SOL

Not to mention it seems they will be the same build as the desert boots. So.. Yay.

As for the uniform. I'm reading (although hard to tell) that it will be a velcro open.. Not zipper or buttons.....

As for the Flag. It seems they watched Stargate Atlantis and liked the one Rodney wore.. lol

EDIT:
Here's what he wore. lol

Tom Swift · May 28th, 2012, 23:13

Skeletor is that powerpoint available for general viewing? The one I saw was about the uniform itself and implementation through attrition of the current uniform. As I understand it production is currently underway or is starting up very shortly with uniforms going first to deploying and infantry units.

Mordarski J.A. · May 28th, 2012, 23:14

Velcro isn't exactly "tactical" at night, you could hear someone opening a pocket from a mile away.....the current buttons work perfectly to combat that.

But this is quickly turning into a conversation far away from the original question.

Tom Swift · May 28th, 2012, 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordarski J.A.

Velcro isn't exactly "tactical" at night, you could hear someone opening a pocket from a mile away.....the current buttons work perfectly to combat that.

But this is quickly turning into a conversation far away from the original question.

Already thought about that...

Tactical Velcro Opening Secret-Special Forces - YouTube

PrIeSt · May 28th, 2012, 23:34

As it stands now. The current uniform has either been stopped or really slowed down for production. If you try to trade in a pair of worn current issue pants. They will have most sizes out of stock.

And as for the brown boots. Hopefully manufacturers catch on. Can't find a decent safety version yet

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May 24th, 2012, 10:47	#1
Cbielak Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2011	CADPAT-TW Uniform I've got some questions about where to get the best CADPAT uniforms. I came across 2 websites, cpgear and flecktarn.co.uk. Questions: 1. Which is better? They are relatively similarly priced, what are the differences? 2. Do they use genuine CADPAT material? (without IR of course) Do they make the uniforms themselves? Or do they buy them from Frontenac for example? (I noticed the cpgear uniforms are darker than flecktarn.co.uk) I emailed both and they told me that they have no material at the moment so size selection is limited. They will however be restocked sometime in the late summer/fall. __________________

May 24th, 2012, 13:25	#3
PrIeSt takagari Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Anola(ish) MB	Don't bother buying te issued shit. I'm gonna be selling off a kiss cadpat vest soon if your interested hit me up. The repro clothes from cp are pretty good. I think the flack tarn is surplus issued. __________________ Eddie Creek, MB Airsoft Field, Valken Dealer, Local Age Verification [COLOR="DarkOrange"][B]

May 24th, 2012, 16:50	#4
Cbielak Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2011	Hmm. Good to know. I'm not planning on getting anything issue, just looking for the real Cadpat material so that all the colours are correct. I already have a CF style Cadpat vest so all I need is a uniform. __________________

May 24th, 2012, 21:11	#5
Mordarski J.A. formerly Blinky Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lindsay ON	Flecktarn's CADPAT is knock-off BDU's. They are made using the actual CADPAT pattern (manufactured by Frontenac) but are in the general "BDU" configuration rather than the Canadian design. CP Gear is a good source too, however they are offering the exact same uniform (also manufactured by Frontenac). There is also no difference in the weight of the Frontenac uniform and the issued uniform, the difference is the lack of IRR material in the civilian version. If you have any Polish gear, I still have a few pieces in my collection I am willing to let go of (assuming they'll fit). Hope this helps some! __________________ Josh Mordarski South Manitoba Rifles Non Sibi Sed Omnibus Age Verifier - Manitoba Current Armoury: WE C7A1 x2 - WE M14 DMR - WE L85A2 CA C8 - CA SLR105 - TM FAMAS WE Browning Hi-Power - Tanaka Browning Hi-Power WE M1911 - KWA SIG Sauer P226 - KSC SIG Sauer P229

May 24th, 2012, 22:17	#6
PrIeSt takagari Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Anola(ish) MB	Good to know. Were moving to "bdu"style cadpat anyway. So all be te same soon! __________________ Eddie Creek, MB Airsoft Field, Valken Dealer, Local Age Verification [COLOR="DarkOrange"][B]

May 24th, 2012, 22:43	#7
Conker Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada / Ireland / USA	What Skeletor said. To be a little more detailed, "BDU" is the US cut from the 80's-90' (there were a couple variants in that timeframe, but not much), while the one the CF is moving to is the new "ACU" cut with mandarin collar, arm pockets and velcro, etc... ACU (Army Combat Uniform) being the uniform cut, and NOT the camo (which is UCP; Universal Camo Pattern). __________________ WTS: King Arms/Madbull Mk18 Mod1 - VFC Mk17 SCAR-H midcap mags, FDE - VFC Mk17 SCAR-H + PWS rail, FDE WTB/WTT: CSOR gear, BFG, Tyr, Crye, etc

May 25th, 2012, 10:17	#8
PrIeSt takagari Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Anola(ish) MB	Too be precise if were going to. Were going with "ICU" Since this country can't just go mainstream and we must make everything unique. and there for usually twice the cost and the same or less quality But if your looking to replicate the new soldier. Your also going to want brown boots, not black! http://soldiersystems.net/2011/07/08...ombat-uniform/ http://soldiersystems.net/2011/05/25...s-brown-boots/ __________________ Eddie Creek, MB Airsoft Field, Valken Dealer, Local Age Verification [COLOR="DarkOrange"][B]

May 28th, 2012, 22:38	#9
Mordarski J.A. formerly Blinky Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lindsay ON	LOL "Intensive Care Unit"....and using UGLY boots. Sorry, the soldier in me still prefers the ol' Mk3 combat boots. I can't say as though I'm a fan of the Mandarin collar, but if it's something that works (and works well) then all the power to 'em. Besides, I got out in 2007.....I don't have to wear that stuff LOL. I'm happy with my OD's! __________________ Josh Mordarski South Manitoba Rifles Non Sibi Sed Omnibus Age Verifier - Manitoba Current Armoury: WE C7A1 x2 - WE M14 DMR - WE L85A2 CA C8 - CA SLR105 - TM FAMAS WE Browning Hi-Power - Tanaka Browning Hi-Power WE M1911 - KWA SIG Sauer P226 - KSC SIG Sauer P229

May 28th, 2012, 23:09	#10
Grey Ops Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Ottawa, ON	Sending you a PM about some stuff I stock Cbielak. __________________

May 28th, 2012, 23:11	#11
PrIeSt takagari Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Anola(ish) MB	Well from what I've seen and heard. All of the CF using purchased boots will be SOL. Without a chit you will be required to wear Brown... So untill SWAT etc. get on board with a brown boot and a brown safety boot for those who require safety. Your SOL Not to mention it seems they will be the same build as the desert boots. So.. Yay. As for the uniform. I'm reading (although hard to tell) that it will be a velcro open.. Not zipper or buttons..... As for the Flag. It seems they watched Stargate Atlantis and liked the one Rodney wore.. lol EDIT: Here's what he wore. lol __________________ Eddie Creek, MB Airsoft Field, Valken Dealer, Local Age Verification [COLOR="DarkOrange"][B]

May 28th, 2012, 23:13	#12
Tom Swift Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vancouver	Skeletor is that powerpoint available for general viewing? The one I saw was about the uniform itself and implementation through attrition of the current uniform. As I understand it production is currently underway or is starting up very shortly with uniforms going first to deploying and infantry units.

May 28th, 2012, 23:14	#13
Mordarski J.A. formerly Blinky Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lindsay ON	Velcro isn't exactly "tactical" at night, you could hear someone opening a pocket from a mile away.....the current buttons work perfectly to combat that. But this is quickly turning into a conversation far away from the original question. __________________ Josh Mordarski South Manitoba Rifles Non Sibi Sed Omnibus Age Verifier - Manitoba Current Armoury: WE C7A1 x2 - WE M14 DMR - WE L85A2 CA C8 - CA SLR105 - TM FAMAS WE Browning Hi-Power - Tanaka Browning Hi-Power WE M1911 - KWA SIG Sauer P226 - KSC SIG Sauer P229

May 28th, 2012, 23:34	#15
PrIeSt takagari Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Anola(ish) MB	As it stands now. The current uniform has either been stopped or really slowed down for production. If you try to trade in a pair of worn current issue pants. They will have most sizes out of stock. And as for the brown boots. Hopefully manufacturers catch on. Can't find a decent safety version yet __________________ Eddie Creek, MB Airsoft Field, Valken Dealer, Local Age Verification [COLOR="DarkOrange"][B]