btv - Episode 4

Blackthorne · March 30th, 2012, 11:35

EPISODE 4 - CLEARS VS GREENHOUSE - YouTube

Pinard · March 30th, 2012, 11:56

and it's meant to shoot on people ? I'm not playing with people gaming those !!

SINN · March 30th, 2012, 12:36

Yeah, I am not sure what the intention behind this one is. Is it to show how unsafe and dangerous they are with glass around, or is it to show how hard they are? I can see the big picture, but I don't know if everyone sees that, or just the fact they can smash windows now.

theshaneler · March 30th, 2012, 12:43

i would like to have seen regular BBs as a comparison

Beowulfe · March 30th, 2012, 12:48

This is going to be awesome.

Armyissue · March 30th, 2012, 12:49

Honour, u spelt it rong.

RUSTSPOT · March 30th, 2012, 12:54

Why would u even be selling these. I can see some kid shooting at random cars/ house with these.

kylem_8 · March 30th, 2012, 13:19

That looks extremely dangerous. I hope we wont have to start checking BB's at games to make sure no one is using those

On another note, the music in the video was way too loud. I couldn't really hear you guys talking at all.

Renegade) · March 30th, 2012, 13:43

The purpose of this video is clearly missed... FUN!!!!!

Ok no, that is the second purpose. The first is obviously education on Silica's, and what they do to glass. Let me repeat that and bold the point... What they do to GLASS

To think they do any more damage in an airsoft game over styrene bb's is a myth. The only thing they wont do is break or loose as much impact force. To say they will take your tooth out, break skin, break an optic, to name a few... over styrene, isnt fair to say, because ANY BB will do exactly that.

They are banned at Rural fields which have glass at them, be it Windows, Cars, Lights, ect for this very reason. In a non rural field, like a forest, with all players using propper eyeware, these bb's are exceptional, and will not pose any greater risk that regular bb's.

Derek

Amos · March 30th, 2012, 13:46

Ok everyone, it's time to retire your plate glass eye protection.

At that ranges with what looks like really old single pane glass... I'm sure a regular BB would have very similar results.

Renegade) · March 30th, 2012, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUSTSPOT

Why would u even be selling these. I can see some kid shooting at random cars/ house with these.

Regular bb's can break glass as well. Silica's just do it more consistent because they are tempered glass, and will not break on impacting the glass unlike a regular bb. Both will impact the same amount of force from the same airsoft gun, the difference is the stopping effect of the glass is neutralized by the fact that the object traveling into it, is harder than itself.

We dont sell them for destructive purposes, they are an elite marksmen bb because they have no air bubbles or deformities, and are invisible to see coming.

SINN · March 30th, 2012, 13:49

exactly Derek, but this information is what is MISSING from the video. Joe blow that sees that video will not understand the point...they see you shooting glass with your bb's so they will do it.

ex · March 30th, 2012, 13:53

I have to agree with Sinn on this guys...

IMHO it seems to be counter productive to produce a video like this but not state it's true intent. In fact we all know if we shoot bb's at glass regardless of the bb's medium it's going to eventually break. So what's really the point???

Sorry I found the video to be counterproductive and slightly childish. Check youtube for all the kids shooting at stuff and breaking it. I personally hold BBBastard to a much higher standard than that.

EDIT:
I do have to say the cinematography though is getting better and better

kylem_8 · March 30th, 2012, 13:56

Maybe you guys would like to debunk these "myths" about the clear BB's then?

Do side by side comparisons of the traditional BB vs the clears... say against the skin using the same location on the body with the same gun at the same FPS. Then do this for objects like optics, goggles, ect.

Education would help the general public warm up to the idea of these BB's. And with the introduction of your new YouTube channel it could only serve to possibly help increase revenue of these BB's.

EDIT*** MORE IDEAS OF EQUIPMENT

BDU's
Vests
Radio Equipment
Guns
Mesh Masks

Basically anything someone would be worried about being damaged if someone was to use these.

Renegade) · March 30th, 2012, 14:05

That is the plan actually. Perhaps this video is a bit pre mature, but it was damn fun to make.

I agree that if people see us shooting cars or a house window or something reckless, ya maybe then our standard is shot and stupid people might replicate it. But we did this in a controlled area, against an old greenhouse scheduled for demolition.

I actually did shoot this glass with regular bb's, they do as you would expect, bounce right off or shatter!

I also did a picture demo a couple years back of regular bb's and silica bb's vs a TM plastic body. It is on these forums and shows a pretty good comparison.

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March 30th, 2012, 11:35	#1
Blackthorne A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Consecon, Ontario	btv - Episode 4 EPISODE 4 - CLEARS VS GREENHOUSE - YouTube __________________ VINCITE OMNIMODO

March 30th, 2012, 11:56	#2
Pinard formerly Contractor 6-8, CptPinard17eRAM Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Quebec	and it's meant to shoot on people ? I'm not playing with people gaming those !! __________________ Retired chairsofter

March 30th, 2012, 12:36	#3
SINN Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto	Yeah, I am not sure what the intention behind this one is. Is it to show how unsafe and dangerous they are with glass around, or is it to show how hard they are? I can see the big picture, but I don't know if everyone sees that, or just the fact they can smash windows now. __________________ MODT - Magnus Operator Development Team - tu fui ego eris

March 30th, 2012, 12:48	#5
Beowulfe Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Calgary, AB	This is going to be awesome.

March 30th, 2012, 12:49	#6
Armyissue Administrator of Pants Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Port Credit	Honour, u spelt it rong. __________________ *** * * * * * * * F i n d - a n - A g e - V e r i f i e r * * * * * * ***

March 30th, 2012, 12:54	#7
RUSTSPOT Sgt. Sparkles Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008	Why would u even be selling these. I can see some kid shooting at random cars/ house with these.

March 30th, 2012, 13:19	#8
kylem_8 Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: kitchener ON	That looks extremely dangerous. I hope we wont have to start checking BB's at games to make sure no one is using those On another note, the music in the video was way too loud. I couldn't really hear you guys talking at all.

March 30th, 2012, 13:43	#9
Renegade) A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tottenham, Ontario	The purpose of this video is clearly missed... FUN!!!!! Ok no, that is the second purpose. The first is obviously education on Silica's, and what they do to glass. Let me repeat that and bold the point... What they do to GLASS To think they do any more damage in an airsoft game over styrene bb's is a myth. The only thing they wont do is break or loose as much impact force. To say they will take your tooth out, break skin, break an optic, to name a few... over styrene, isnt fair to say, because ANY BB will do exactly that. They are banned at Rural fields which have glass at them, be it Windows, Cars, Lights, ect for this very reason. In a non rural field, like a forest, with all players using propper eyeware, these bb's are exceptional, and will not pose any greater risk that regular bb's. Derek __________________ W1-5

March 30th, 2012, 13:46	#10
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	Ok everyone, it's time to retire your plate glass eye protection. At that ranges with what looks like really old single pane glass... I'm sure a regular BB would have very similar results. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

March 30th, 2012, 13:49	#12
SINN Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto	exactly Derek, but this information is what is MISSING from the video. Joe blow that sees that video will not understand the point...they see you shooting glass with your bb's so they will do it. __________________ MODT - Magnus Operator Development Team - tu fui ego eris

March 30th, 2012, 13:53	#13
ex Wanna buy some Nod's? #StolenValour Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ottawa	I have to agree with Sinn on this guys... IMHO it seems to be counter productive to produce a video like this but not state it's true intent. In fact we all know if we shoot bb's at glass regardless of the bb's medium it's going to eventually break. So what's really the point??? Sorry I found the video to be counterproductive and slightly childish. Check youtube for all the kids shooting at stuff and breaking it. I personally hold BBBastard to a much higher standard than that. EDIT: I do have to say the cinematography though is getting better and better __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

March 30th, 2012, 13:56	#14
kylem_8 Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: kitchener ON	Maybe you guys would like to debunk these "myths" about the clear BB's then? Do side by side comparisons of the traditional BB vs the clears... say against the skin using the same location on the body with the same gun at the same FPS. Then do this for objects like optics, goggles, ect. Education would help the general public warm up to the idea of these BB's. And with the introduction of your new YouTube channel it could only serve to possibly help increase revenue of these BB's. EDIT*** MORE IDEAS OF EQUIPMENT BDU's Vests Radio Equipment Guns Mesh Masks Basically anything someone would be worried about being damaged if someone was to use these. Last edited by kylem_8; March 30th, 2012 at 14:10..

March 30th, 2012, 14:05	#15
Renegade) A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tottenham, Ontario	That is the plan actually. Perhaps this video is a bit pre mature, but it was damn fun to make. I agree that if people see us shooting cars or a house window or something reckless, ya maybe then our standard is shot and stupid people might replicate it. But we did this in a controlled area, against an old greenhouse scheduled for demolition. I actually did shoot this glass with regular bb's, they do as you would expect, bounce right off or shatter! I also did a picture demo a couple years back of regular bb's and silica bb's vs a TM plastic body. It is on these forums and shows a pretty good comparison. __________________ W1-5

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