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[moptrf]

Just wondering what you guys think of the G&G M4 CQB-R Max.
Any upgrades needed or is this fine out of the box?
Maybe i can get a better deal in the classifieds section, just got wait to be verified. thanks

[AoiShikaku]

out of the box you'll need to upgrade quite a bit... and finding a full metal will be a pain in the ass unless you aren't AV.

My personal opinion.. just wait out the AV process and you'll find A LOT of stuff better than G&G out of the box.

[L473ncy]

IMO out of the box you don't need to touch anything. Just play with it until it fails (as no matter what everything will succumb to parts failure due to friction, stress, etc. just because parts are moving and wear out and whatnot). It's just a matter of "when" they'll fail. ie. An American built car might fail after 100K Km's while an Asian import might fail after 400K Km's they both fail eventually but one usually sooner than the other (however you sometimes get those one in a million cars that don't fail for a long time, ie. some Aftermath Krakens (cheap chinaclone) might last for 100K+ BB's) and even then some TM's might fail after 2000 BB's.

Anyways, just play with it for a season maybe a season and a half and then figure out exactly what you want from your gun and target your upgrades accordingly (if you require it). I'm a proponent of leaving things stock unless you need the extra power, accuracy, ROF, etc. since it can be a finicky, frustrating, and potentially expensive process.

Now as for buying that over something else. I'd really wait for your AV to go through (after you get your info taken down by a verifier it will usually take 1-2 weeks after they've submitted it for the admins to activate your AV status with usual updates being weekly). At least once you have your AV you have a larger variety to choose from. Maybe the G&G does the trick for you or maybe you find something full metal that catches your eye and buy that. Basically look everywhere you can before buying.

[moptrf]

These new G&G are all metal?
https://www.buyairsoft.ca/rifles/ele...cqb-r-max.html
The G&G MAX Series is the newest line of Full Metal G&G rifles in Canada! These are some of the most powerful and fully upgraded rifles on the market today. Due to the very realistic appearance and extreme power, we recommend this product to the most experienced players only.

The G&G M4 MAX Series features:

* Full Metal Upper and Lower Receiver
* Torque-Up Reinforced Gears
* G&G High Torque Motor
* Metal Ball Bearing Spring Guide
* Reinforced Piston
* High Compression Metal Piston Head
* Reinforced Metal Cylinder Head
* Low Resistance Silver Wiring
* Tight Bore Barrel (6.04mm)

But i will wait to be AV,
Thanks again

[Tex]

Originally Posted by AoiShikaku

out of the box you'll need to upgrade quite a bit... and finding a full metal will be a pain in the ass unless you aren't AV.

My personal opinion.. just wait out the AV process and you'll find A LOT of stuff better than G&G out of the box.

The max are metal. There is nothing wrong with regular G&G. And actually the op will need to down grade the spring right out of the box. Nothing more

[AoiShikaku]

Sry I stand corrected. MAX line is full metal

IMO I'm still not happy with G&G stock parts. I've had the chance to test out two (non MAX line) and was severely disappointed in the performance and consistency of the shots at 100ft. I'd still dump the money into the upgrades if I were you... BUT... at the same cost for a new gun you can pick yourself up something better at the same or lower cost of a new gun once you are AV and you might get the chance to get a bunch of extra goodies with it too.. battery, charger, mags, sights, sling, etc.

[Eeyore]

Originally Posted by moptrf

These new G&G are all metal?
https://www.buyairsoft.ca/rifles/ele...cqb-r-max.html
The G&G MAX Series is the newest line of Full Metal G&G rifles in Canada! These are some of the most powerful and fully upgraded rifles on the market today. Due to the very realistic appearance and extreme power, we recommend this product to the most experienced players only.

The G&G M4 MAX Series features:

* Full Metal Upper and Lower Receiver
* Torque-Up Reinforced Gears
* G&G High Torque Motor
* Metal Ball Bearing Spring Guide
* Reinforced Piston
* High Compression Metal Piston Head
* Reinforced Metal Cylinder Head
* Low Resistance Silver Wiring
* Tight Bore Barrel (6.04mm)

But i will wait to be AV,
Thanks again

For that ame price you van get yourself a Classic Army or many other brands which are far superior to G&G.

Its good that you are willing to wait until after you are AV'd to buy even if you decide to with the G&G in the end.

Tom

[SuperCriollo]

Or a SRC M4 pro. They seem to be pretty good.