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Old October 19th, 2017, 22:07   #1
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Your thoughts on blind firing?

I had these question asked to me at work today and I basically told the guy that I think the general consensus is that "One no, and the other, I'm not too sure on".

The first one was:

Is using an airsoft grenade considered blind firing since once you let it go, you most likely won't see where it lands and it will discharge a whole whack of BB's?

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Is running down a hallway and firing at the door at the end of it or rounding a corner firing or entering into a room firing your weapon considered a form of blind firing?

What do you guys think?
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Old October 19th, 2017, 22:15   #2
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1. No that's retarded.

2. No, you can still see where your shots are going.
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Old October 19th, 2017, 22:18   #3
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Typically, grenades don't expel bbs at quite the energy as our guns do, so the safety issue regarding blindfiring isn't as prominent. So no.

The second scenario you're describing is called prefiring. As long as you have a direct line of vision connecting your barrel to where you're shooting, it's not blindfiring. Prefiring's a perfectly valid tactic, although it really is kind of speedsoft-like as opposed to proper milsim techniques that enforce proper trigger and fire discipline (limited amounts of ammo).

There's another thread (http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread....ighlight=blind), where we go over ad nauseum what's considered blind firing.

Hope this helps.
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Old October 20th, 2017, 00:26   #4
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Old October 26th, 2017, 11:21   #5
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The frags, in a way, are blind firing. But theres nothing we can do to increase the safety of them. Like, WATCHING it go off isnt going to make it any safer lol
So thats just an accepted risk.

Shooting down a hallway is just the proper way to run down a hallway with enemies in it. Just dont hip fire full auto.
And shooting while rounding a corner boxes people in. It fucking sucks when it happens to you but its a perfectly accepted method of clearing a room as long as you're looking down your sights while doing it.
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Old November 1st, 2017, 22:20   #6
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underhand tossing nades is the safest method of implementing them, the danger of hucking nades is not because you don't know where it's going, it's fucking hucking it as hard as you can to bean someone with it. Especially those aluminum bodied tornadoes. That's not cool if you smash someone's face with it.

bbs from a grenade don't come out at 400 fps.
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Old November 3rd, 2017, 17:36   #7
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I like to borrow this thread for another question
if I get a HUD and have my scope image sends to my HUD, can I shoot without looking down my rifle? although I may look like blind firing but i will see exactly where I will be shooting.
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Old November 3rd, 2017, 17:50   #8
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if I get a HUD and have my scope image sends to my HUD, can I shoot without looking down my rifle? although I may look like blind firing but i will see exactly where I will be shooting.
Oh yeah we're all doing that nowadays.
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Old November 3rd, 2017, 23:28   #9
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didnt feel like making a new thread for similar question

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Old November 3rd, 2017, 23:46   #10
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if I get a HUD and have my scope image sends to my HUD, can I shoot without looking down my rifle? although I may look like blind firing but i will see exactly where I will be shooting.
i would say thats fine, its essentially the same as shooting with an ir laser and NV, your not looking down your sights directly but your aware of whats in front of your muzzle and where the shots will strike, and thats what is important about the blind fire rule. The blind fire rule wasnt made so people couldnt shoot without getting hit, it was made to prevent people from having a gun stuck in their face and have their teeth shot out by someone not looking.
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Old November 5th, 2017, 08:57   #11
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Discipline, discipline, discipline!

Grenades are meant as room clearing agents, I've had grenades (cyclone) go off in my hand as an experiment so I know what it feels like at point blank range, it stings and you get over it. Grenades are not blind firing.

Running down a hallway while shooting (provided that the shooting is controlled and not a kamikaze run while shooting and lmg) is acceptable, to quote "Dog Soldiers", "short controlled bursts". Now the coming around the corner while shooting bugs me since some players don't yet have the trigger control required for educated room clearing. Also bear this in mind, usually younger players or inexperienced players are the ones to find shelter, I wouldn't want my first airsoft experience to be a face full of bbs because some nut came around the corner with no fire discipline.

Which brings another point to the surface, if you come around a corner shooting and you turn your head while shooting as to not get shot in the face you are at that point blind firing, you can't see what you're shooting at and you're just hoping your shoot that you Were aiming at. If you can't keep your eyes on the sights around corners than just send someone who can or use nades.

Also if you're getting blinded with a high intensity flashlight at close range (under 10 feet) and you return fire, you're essentially blind firing since you don't know if the shooter is behind to the right or to the left of the light. It would be like shooting after being hit with a flash bang, they are enough to disorientate you and you therefore don't know where you're shooting with confidence.

I guess time will tell for some players, but my advice is keep your barrel pointed below shoulder height (larger target btw) and I know some players are shorter but it's better than filling someone's face full of bb's.

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Old November 6th, 2017, 09:07   #12
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Old November 8th, 2017, 17:44   #13
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Oh yeah we're all doing that nowadays.
I recall cornershot devices being discussed some years ago, and they would be considered blind firing by most people.

If your HUD camera had a wide enough FOV, you probably could get away with it, guess at that point it would be up to the field manager/game organizer to decide. I would say no, a corner shot device would not be allowed as it's not really in the spirit of rules of the game.
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Old January 11th, 2018, 23:14   #14
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Not a big fan, just line up your shots. :infantry:
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Old January 12th, 2018, 20:19   #15
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