Question about the Y38 Form

[stride745]

These questions are for the Y38 Form for taking airsoft guns to the US and bringing them back.

1. Do I need to have ALL my receipts for all the guns I bought in Canada or is it optional?

2. Do the forms expire after a certain time?

3. Are Grenade launchers included for this form (M203)?

[Styrak]

If you take your airsoft guns outside Canada, don't plan on bringing them back.

[Dooms]

FAQ Outlines this type of question pretty well...

[R.I.T.Z]

Contact some of the Force recon boys they go over each year for OP Pine Plains they'll be able to point you in the correct direction.

Stryak that isnt necessarily true if you follow the correct procedure

[Slow]

Originally Posted by stride745

These questions are for the Y38 Form for taking airsoft guns to the US and bringing them back.

1. Do I need to have ALL my receipts for all the guns I bought in Canada or is it optional?

You should do this, with everything you buy over in the states(Including Food).

[W0lf]

Originally Posted by Slow

You should do this, with everything you buy over in the states(Including Food).

I don't think he's asking about buying anything in the States.

[lanepratt]

I have filled out a Y38 form, its a small green paper with the gun's make and serial number if it has one. If you do not have a serial number on your gun they put a yellow transparent sicker that says Canada revenue and a unique number that will be used as a serial number (these stickers suck and fall off easy, i put a piece of clear packing tape over it to make sure it stays). Once this sticker is put on if you need one it is not legally allowed to be taken off unless the gun is destroyed (they don't log any of this info in to their system so i don't know how they can enforce this) Also i was told by the CBSA agent when i did mine that is a good idea to bring original receipts with you to prove that you did purchase the gun in Canada.

The agent also told me that they are "phasing" out the Y38 and original receipt will be good enough. Personally i can not confirm if this is true because there is no common knowledge across the CBSA regarding airsoft. So to be safe i got a y38 filled out and will also have my original receipts.

I am going to OP Pine Plains in Ft, Drum NY in July and i will confirm if we get our guns back in to canada using this system.

In Answer to your 3 questions.

1. Yes i would bring all your receipts with you
2. They do not expire (and its free to do)
3. A teammate added his VFC EGLM (m203 launcher) to his Y38 form, but they have their own serial number, If yours does not they will put a sticker on it as i mentioned above. And i would add it as they are not technically allowed in Canada yet.

[Jackals]

Here is the bottom line.

Styrak your actually wrong. Getting your guns back and forth is very plausible and pretty easy. I have been doing it for a little over a year now.

LanePratt summed it up ok but I will add to what he has done.

First and foremost, a Y38 is nothing more than proof the item was purchased in Canada, but does nothing for admissibility based on velocity.

Basically, if you have a Y38 and gun does not meet the velocity outline of 407 FPS and its not CANSOFT than your gun can be taken for testing or seized.

The additional document you need is a form from an "Expert" that states that your gun meets the additional requirement of shooting 407FPS but bellow 500 FPS.

I had my local registered Gun Smith classified an expert by the CBSA and he has been certifying my local guys for OPP at Fort Drum.

I have heard of guys getting by with just a Y38, but there is still a high risk of "black" guns getting seized.

[Styrak]

Interesting.

[Jackals]

Originally Posted by Styrak

Interesting.

Its amazing what can be done when you talk and choose to work with them and instead of fight them.

[Jackals]

Also I can't speak to or for the Grenade Launchers as it has never come up in my conversations with CBSA.

[SniperSam]

Originally Posted by Slow

You should do this, with everything you buy over in the states(Including Food).

Well you can keep them, just won't need to show them depending on the amount you've spent and how long you'be been in the USA

Could I trouble you to write an FAQ on this process please?

Originally Posted by Jackals

Here is the bottom line.

Styrak your actually wrong. Getting your guns back and forth is very plausible and pretty easy. I have been doing it for a little over a year now.

LanePratt summed it up ok but I will add to what he has done.

First and foremost, a Y38 is nothing more than proof the item was purchased in Canada, but does nothing for admissibility based on velocity.

Basically, if you have a Y38 and gun does not meet the velocity outline of 407 FPS and its not CANSOFT than your gun can be taken for testing or seized.

The additional document you need is a form from an "Expert" that states that your gun meets the additional requirement of shooting 407FPS but bellow 500 FPS.

I had my local registered Gun Smith classified an expert by the CBSA and he has been certifying my local guys for OPP at Fort Drum.

I have heard of guys getting by with just a Y38, but there is still a high risk of "black" guns getting seized.

[ap27]

^Would be very helpful

[Jackals]

Originally Posted by MadMorbius

Could I trouble you to write an FAQ on this process please?

Absolutely, where do you want it posted?