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Old May 10th, 2008, 17:25   #1
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Need Hicapa input...

K, so, I've had a really rough 3 weeks trying to set up my hicapa juuusssttt right. Everything was tested, re-tested, and re-tested AGAIN.

Then the gun explodes.*

So, I'm really in a bind right now. I've been told by atleast 12 different people that :

A. Hicapas with metal slides, and spring upgrades are VERY LONG LASTING guns, and are very reliable.

B. Hicapas with metal slides pose many barrel/chamber/breech lock (little grooves that lock the chamber/slide in place when in battery) issues.

C. Hicapas should be run STOCK only.

......

So WHO can give me the RIGHT info. Cause, I'm about to trash this thing, and go glock like originally planned.... There's no point in having a really nice gun that will eventually destroy itself.... AhemWAahem.....

* Regarding the explosion. It WAS NOT rig related. My Hicapa was holstered without the cord, thus making it impossible to snag. Upon inspection, I noticed that the problem may have come from the Airsoft Surgeon Blow-Back Chamber, as the piston was loose (by loose, I mean about to fall off). The threads were intact.
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Old May 10th, 2008, 18:23   #2
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Contact KEVORKIAN and ILLusion. They're a mine of information and parts on all things Hi-Capa.
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Old May 10th, 2008, 18:27   #3
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Unless something more dramatic happened after I left, your Capa hardly exploded... the rear sight came off somehow and because that part of the slide was no longer there to hold the piston return spring in place, the spring got crunched. Were there any other parts damaged in the malfunction? Will help others to diagnose the possible cause. Also, what modifications have you made to the gun?

The *right* answer is the one that you feel most comfortable with. If this experience has turned you off Capas, then no amount of trying to convince you will ever set your mind at ease. TM makes a number of other equally reliable GBBs.

I've owned five TM Capas in various states - stock, mod, 4.3, 5.1, new, used... they've all been reliable and I can't complain about any of them. Sure, they have their quirks, but so do *all* airsoft guns, mechanical devices, electronics... you name it.

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Old May 10th, 2008, 18:45   #4
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The rear sight blowoff as I've said at the time is a common issue from other Hi-Capa owners I've talked to in other forums. remedies I am not sure. I've heard that the metal rear sight eventually will tear the plastic off the slide and break due to the force of the cycling action on propane. I think running a recoil buffer(the little rubber washer) at the end of the recoil guide rod spring base will help a lot(and thus I believe that feature was implemented in the newer 5.1 as well as the 4.3 models).

The loose AS piston is also a reported issue with that part. I've secured mine with loctite upon hearing the problem, and I have not had any issues with it.

In terms of metal upgrades, I don't think there are any issues with them if they are installed properly. Like most metal upgrades a certain break-in period is required for the parts to mate properly, and you also need observe where is the sticking spots and maybe use a file to break off the edge to help it cycle smoother.

Interesting guide here to most of the available upgrades for the Hi-Capa:
http://community.tradersairsoft.com/...ad.php?tid=488
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Old May 10th, 2008, 20:20   #5
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Well the advantage the hicapas have over WA is that the parts are more readily available.. No airsoft is immune from eventually destroying itself. So it's the availability of parts that should be of concern IMO.

Not to mention being able to borrow mags. You've seen how many people had TM hicapas last nit at IPSC heh. like 9 to 10 ratio.
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Old May 10th, 2008, 21:46   #6
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Interesting guide here to most of the available upgrades for the Hi-Capa:
http://community.tradersairsoft.com/...ad.php?tid=488
That's awesome. Thanks.
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Old May 10th, 2008, 21:50   #7
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Yeah, that's true.

But... what if you're running a 200$ slide, and your chamber eats it? You heard what Carl was saying...
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Old May 10th, 2008, 23:03   #8
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Thats simply the downside of running a steel chamber against an aluminum slide. It's not just the design of the gun; the choice of materials for moving parts plays a factor here. You could simply leave well enough with your chrome plastic chamber.
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Old May 10th, 2008, 23:21   #9
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After the APS Session last night at TTAC3 We were sitting around smoking and drinking... as usual

The desk was littered with guns.. as usual.. all of them High capas. ( except for my FN FAL that seems to sneak out of the lockup wherver there are more than 3 people around..)

Carl was talking about upgrades and such.. And this is what he had to say... I think I understood his gist so Ill paraphrase

As soon as you put a non stock part on any gun it will lead to unintended wear and eventual failure, particularly when you combine un-like materials of differing physical characteristics coming to bear in manners not intended by the designers of the base gun.

My take away from that is... When it comes to GBB pistols unless you want to be constantly fiddling run em stock.

Also substantial upgrades and reliability are mutualy exclusive terms.. when it comes to airsoft the two do not exist in the same place.

I don't know how helpful that is... but I think it is good advice none the less
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Old May 10th, 2008, 23:53   #10
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Yeah. I'm definitely going to be looking at something that comes FMU, and range ready after the other night.

Carl was totally right about inconsistency in performance, as a result of a "thrown together" gun.

Well, w.e. That experience isn't going to keep me away from coming back (maybe with a proper holster, and legal rig )

Thanks guys.
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Old May 11th, 2008, 00:26   #11
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Yeah. I'm definitely going to be looking at something that comes FMU, and range ready after the other night.

Carl was totally right about inconsistency in performance, as a result of a "thrown together" gun.

Well, w.e. That experience isn't going to keep me away from coming back (maybe with a proper holster, and legal rig )

Thanks guys.
TM Highcapa 4.3 stock, not full metal but hard hitting, reliable and accurate what more could you ask for?
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Old May 11th, 2008, 01:18   #12
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TM Highcapa 4.3 stock, not full metal but hard hitting, reliable and accurate what more could you ask for?
Something a little more lefty friendly.

I think a TM glock with a metal slide, and run on propane would be optimum.
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Old May 11th, 2008, 01:20   #13
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Or you could just swap the 4.3 thumb safety with the 5.1....
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Old May 11th, 2008, 01:32   #14
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Or you could just swap the 4.3 thumb safety with the 5.1....
... yeah. I could.. This is true.

But I think I should just get something that's FMU, or is more FMU friendly (I.E; Glock, USP, SIG226) ...
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Old May 11th, 2008, 01:45   #15
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A 4.3 won't have the same issue as 5.1's rearsight though, as it is not a adjustable sight which have IMO reduced strength. And much like the Glock or USP all you need to replace is slide and barrel then upgrade the recoil spring and you have a full metal gun. Besides, there are plenty of Hi-Capas outthere that have been FMU and have had thousands of rounds through it with propane and had no issues with wear. Mine have had at least 2-3000 rounds through it and the wear is minimum at the barrel lug. SD's slide are pretty tough as they are 7075, which as far as aluminum goes is about as tough as they come.
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