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Old August 9th, 2006, 22:16   #31
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they have been done in the past. exactly the same as you are saying. good luck with it dude. and yeah id rather get the one from daves.
yeah I know they've been done in the past, that's how I got my inspiration. I've got the design finished and I've done all the physics math so I pretty much know how it will perform.

what's so appealing about the one at dave's surplus? :???:
Heh dug around my comp and well look what I found a pic of. :lol:



What isnt there to love about that gun?
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Old August 9th, 2006, 22:52   #32
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did you plan out something ? Estimated price , plans etc. ?
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Old August 9th, 2006, 23:00   #33
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did you plan out something ? Estimated price , plans etc. ?
I have the design just about finished (I'm currently in the process of finding suppliers for each part).

Estimated price, to be honest I have no idea but I have fairly deep pockets so I don't care what the prototype costs me. (I do want to know what people would pay for it, though, which is partly why I started this thread)
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Old August 9th, 2006, 23:15   #34
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Old August 9th, 2006, 23:15   #35
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The most important thing to include on your model would be hop-up. To my knowledge no Minigun to date has come with it for whatever reason and really limits the practical use of the weapon.
with the insane rof and prolonged fire I belive regular rubber hop ups would be destroyed very quickly by heat and friction. possibly use one of those Tanio Koba TWIST Inner Barrels Illusion was talking about. should give you the same effect with a much longer usable life. get in tough with Illusion about FPS/stability tests he's doing.
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Old August 9th, 2006, 23:18   #36
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The most important thing to include on your model would be hop-up. To my knowledge no Minigun to date has come with it for whatever reason and really limits the practical use of the weapon.
with the insane rof and prolonged fire I belive regular rubber hop ups would be destroyed very quickly by heat and friction. possibly use one of those Tanio Koba TWIST Inner Barrels Illusion was talking about. should give you the same effect with a much longer usable life. get in tough with Illusion about FPS/stability tests he's doing.
The twist barrels still have hop-up, so they wouldnt be any more resistant to hop-up wear than any other barrel. The twist barrels themselves do not achieve the range. The twist function of the barrels gives it the accuracy, but the hop-up is still what gives it the range, not the twist.
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Old August 9th, 2006, 23:25   #37
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This "proposal" sounds awfully similar to the P3 project, especially with the proposal of using .88g BB's.

Toy-tec does not even use C02 for propulsion, relying on a piston system, ie. AEG. I would prefer this system.

Do you have any access to machining equipment that could even possibly closely replicate something of this complexity? (A gas chamber block from the Asahi Airsoft Minigun)

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Old August 9th, 2006, 23:35   #38
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God , Greylocks is becoming a real superstar in here :razz:

But yeah keep your idea going , build one and if nobody's interested , keep it for yourself and be DA MAN !
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Old August 9th, 2006, 23:52   #39
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This "proposal" sounds awfully similar to the P3 project, especially with the proposal of using .88g BB's.

Toy-tec does not even use C02 for propulsion, relying on a piston system, ie. AEG. I would prefer this system.

Do you have any access to machining equipment that could even possibly closely replicate something of this complexity? (A gas chamber block from the Asahi Airsoft Minigun)

1) I will not be using CO2 or pistons.
2) Yes.
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Old August 10th, 2006, 00:31   #40
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with the insane rof and prolonged fire I belive regular rubber hop ups would be destroyed very quickly by heat and friction. possibly use one of those Tanio Koba TWIST Inner Barrels Illusion was talking about. should give you the same effect with a much longer usable life. get in tough with Illusion about FPS/stability tests he's doing.
If you can afford to purchase, feed, and maintain a minigun, you can afford $25 in hop rubbers for your barrels. If you use hard sleeves and buckings you'll get more life out of them. Even if the effect isn't as significant due to the lack of tackiness it will still be better than having none at all.
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Old August 10th, 2006, 00:42   #41
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as Daes pointed out
http://www.montysminiguns.com/AirSoftPage.htm
there already are a few minguns on the market.
The American 6mm Minigun is the only one thats worth considering.

but without a hopup and a reliable feeding system, these guns are nothing but fancy paperweights
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Old August 10th, 2006, 01:57   #42
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as Daes pointed out
http://www.montysminiguns.com/AirSoftPage.htm
there already are a few minguns on the market.
The American 6mm Minigun is the only one thats worth considering.

but without a hopup and a reliable feeding system, these guns are nothing but fancy paperweights
as I said previously in the thread, I am fully aware that this *has* been done before.

A couple things to note:

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Used in good condition with accessories these M134 guns have sold "Used" for over $9000.
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The Toy-tec airsoft minigun came out a year after the Asahi and it was Toy-tec's most expensive gun ($2685-$2885 USD) to date. [...] A used Toytec gun now in average condition is worth over $6200 US if you are able to find one on the used market.
See a trend here?
1) These guns are not being manufactured anymore (at least, not nearly enough to meet demand).
2) The ones that are out there have appreciated (quite a bit, too) despite being used.

Seems like a pretty lucrative venture to me.
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Old August 10th, 2006, 02:11   #43
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If you know its lucrative just go ahead and make one. Once the goods are there the flock will come.
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