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Old May 28th, 2013, 20:48   #16
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Alright it will be the vfc !
I just have to find the right place to buy ir now ... I made a couple of calls today and they all told me this model cant be order anymore ...
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Old May 28th, 2013, 21:32   #17
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Ho! And last question for you guys,
When your talking about to change the internals... Do ''systema'' internals will enventually fit into the vfc ?
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Old May 28th, 2013, 22:02   #18
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Ho! And last question for you guys,
When your talking about to change the internals... Do ''systema'' internals will enventually fit into the vfc ?
Systema parts for the version 2 gearbox will fit. If you are thinking Systema in terms of the PTW no they won't, PTW's are a totally different system.

There are better deals to be had these days when it comes to ver. 2 internals though. For the most part though you shouldn't need to change anything, VFC's are pretty good out of the box. Just play with it until it breaks then you can upgrade the internals.
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Old May 28th, 2013, 22:22   #19
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all I can say is do your research on parts before you buy. Some are wickedly expensive but soso in quality, while others will be dirt cheap and still that same level of soso quality. Don't be swayed by name or pricetag. Look for the parts that are proven to give results for the best value.
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Old May 28th, 2013, 22:35   #20
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I had 0 problems with the stock internals on the VFC man. The only thing I changed out was the plastic hop up to a modify metal one. Other than that I ran it stock at 380 fps and put 30k rounds through it before the contacts shit out on me.

Run the internals until the go. You don't need to replace anything in the gun before it does. Even the piston lasted a full season of gaming before I had to replace it.
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Old May 28th, 2013, 23:07   #21
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You cant order a vfc you need to ask for a Umarex (they are made by vfc but sold as umarex because of copyright reasons)
And dont buy systema internals they are overrated. Yes the systema ptw's are good guns but the parts they make for regular aegs are sub par and over priced just tryin to cash in on the systema name.
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Old May 28th, 2013, 23:12   #22
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As ARGs go get a VFC 416
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Old June 7th, 2013, 19:47   #23
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Anyone have any experience with the RAtech WE 416? Couldn't find anything on it with a search
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Old June 7th, 2013, 21:01   #24
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I would advise against gas as your first gun. Real cap mags. Lil extra maintenance (ie gotta clean it like a real gun after most outings) gun is about the same price as a good aeg but the mags are 40-50 bucks each.
Cant game it out of the box. (perhaps the ratech one has an npas pre installed but a regular one wont)
Cant use it in the cold really.
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Old June 7th, 2013, 21:42   #25
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Ran my g36 gbbr with full 10 mag loadout this past weekend, holy shit was I ever tired from carrying all that weight. Mag weight should be considered for gbbrs! A lot of metal is used in those mags and could possibly be heavier than its fully loaded RS counterpart.


My new trigger pack with 2 shot burst was a joy on the other hand.

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Old June 7th, 2013, 21:50   #26
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Yeah i run my 416 with 7-10mags all the time and im a small guy (5ft7 130lb) its heavy thats for sure but you get used to it. Not as heavy as running a full metal m4 aeg with metal midcaps (mags are lighter gun is heavier) plus an m203 and 8 nades. Now that shits heavy.
And yeah the m4 gbbr mags are just as or heavier the a loaded real m4 mag. And they dont get lighter as you empty em lmao (well they get 9 grams lighter if your runnin 30's lol)
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Old July 7th, 2013, 06:57   #27
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You guys seem to have the aeg topic buttoned up but what about the gbbr options? VFC and WE are the two options I have narrowed it down to. I have a vfc m4 aeg already but I feel the need to add a gbbr to the kit. Does anyone have hands on experience with either the VFC or WE hk 416?
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Old July 7th, 2013, 12:56   #28
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VFC for the look, WE for the run.
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Old July 7th, 2013, 13:02   #29
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I would advise against gas as your first gun. Real cap mags. Lil extra maintenance (ie gotta clean it like a real gun after most outings) gun is about the same price as a good aeg but the mags are 40-50 bucks each.
Cant game it out of the box. (perhaps the ratech one has an npas pre installed but a regular one wont)
Cant use it in the cold really.
WE HK416 and other M4 GBBR are all good to shoot right out of boxes. just the stock internals will last for a long time.
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Old July 7th, 2013, 13:16   #30
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VFC for the look, WE for the run.

For the "run" meaning shooting proformance? Or durability? And do they run off "generic" mags or specific for each platform?
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