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Old November 24th, 2015, 17:20   #16
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On the spoon issue, ( as I know Carl well and have been watching the development of this product for the past 3 years ) Market research indicated that users really really wanted the spoon.
a lot of people went so far as to say if there was no spoon, they would not purchase it.
Does the spoon on this one actually do anything? It didn't seem to.....
Maybe it's a part of the safety like an actual spoon?

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I believe his concern was more that the spoon is not locked to the grenade by a pin or hinge, and instead flys off into the sand or grass or whatever you're throwing it over, and will inevitably be lost eventually

even a simple wire lanyard holding the spoon to the grenade would be nice
Even a small amount of weight would have a huge effect on the spin and handling characteristics. Especially weight on a string held away from the body of the grenade, if you know how physics works.
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Old November 24th, 2015, 17:24   #17
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Does the spoon on this one actually do anything? It didn't seem to.....
Maybe it's a part of the safety like an actual spoon?
Spoon functions as part of the safety.

https://www.reddit.com/r/airsoft/com...e_the_cyclone/
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I guess we can assume a release in about a into or so?

I posted that though on another post (on FB), but I just hope it will work when landing on grass or dirt, if so I might have an impact or two for sale :P
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Old November 24th, 2015, 18:02   #19
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I guess we can assume a release in about a into or so?

I posted that though on another post (on FB), but I just hope it will work when landing on grass or dirt, if so I might have an impact or two for sale :P
Local source told me they were supposed to be at their shop 2 weeks ago.

So, unknown.

Assume for early Dec. ETA. Considering they are 40 USD ish, I suspect they will be from 50-60 CAD.
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Old November 24th, 2015, 18:12   #20
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Local source told me they were supposed to be at their shop 2 weeks ago.

So, unknown.

Assume for early Dec. ETA. Considering they are 40 USD ish, I suspect they will be from 50-60 CAD.
Price is 50CAD MAP.
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Old November 24th, 2015, 18:19   #21
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Old November 24th, 2015, 18:38   #22
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Well, better then no videos at the moment >_<.

*I was expecting a slow mo to see how it explodes though (spread) *
Not a true slo mo but it gives a better idea than that other video.

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Old November 24th, 2015, 19:03   #23
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Old November 24th, 2015, 20:20   #24
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The spoon is a safety feature, it has a lanyard loop so you can tie it to the grenade with a string if you like. Most importantly it'll cost $50, is much faster to reload, and it stings like a bastard.

225fps might not sound like much but that's like a ball of 30 full auto detonics shooting 140 times in 1/5 of a second within mercy range!
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Old November 24th, 2015, 21:11   #25
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I really want to see how this compares to the tornado. I feel like the tornado would have better coverage.
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Old November 24th, 2015, 23:17   #26
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I really want to see how this compares to the tornado. I feel like the tornado would have better coverage.
Tornado fires 180bbs which is more than Cyclone at 140bbs. That being said, 140bbs is not too far from 180bbs and Cyclone employs a different firing principle than Tornado. Cyclone has way more punch than Tornado.

A new way of firing bbs was developed for Cyclone to fix the crummy and varying FPS of Tornado which also extends the discharge cycle considerably. Tornado discharges all of it's pellets in 1/15 of a second. Cyclone takes about 1/5s to discharge it's pellets. This gives Cyclone a bunch more time to spin up. Still, Tornado has dual passages with up and down ramps to achieve it's dispersion. All in all I'd say that both models have about even dispersion.

As to the spoon, the spoon features a lanyard hole for the user to tie it down. We used to have a hole in the fuze head, but we had to add this fugly rubber part over it to give it better impact protection. It turned out that the bare fuze head was not impact resistant enough so we had some urethane covers moulded as a late design change to improve resistance to cracking. Unfortunately the cover blocked the lanyard hole in the fuze head. Still I think it wouldn't be hard for users to find a good spot to hole punch the rubber cover to tie the other end of the spoon retention cord to. I wish I did a better job with this, but late design changes are a mess.
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Old November 24th, 2015, 23:37   #27
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Tornado fires 180bbs which is more than Cyclone at 140bbs. That being said, 140bbs is not too far from 180bbs and Cyclone employs a different firing principle than Tornado. Cyclone has way more punch than Tornado.

A new way of firing bbs was developed for Cyclone to fix the crummy and varying FPS of Tornado which also extends the discharge cycle considerably. Tornado discharges all of it's pellets in 1/15 of a second. Cyclone takes about 1/5s to discharge it's pellets. This gives Cyclone a bunch more time to spin up. Still, Tornado has dual passages with up and down ramps to achieve it's dispersion. All in all I'd say that both models have about even dispersion.

As to the spoon, the spoon features a lanyard hole for the user to tie it down. We used to have a hole in the fuze head, but we had to add this fugly rubber part over it to give it better impact protection. It turned out that the bare fuze head was not impact resistant enough so we had some urethane covers moulded as a late design change to improve resistance to cracking. Unfortunately the cover blocked the lanyard hole in the fuze head. Still I think it wouldn't be hard for users to find a good spot to hole punch the rubber cover to tie the other end of the spoon retention cord to. I wish I did a better job with this, but late design changes are a mess.



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Old November 25th, 2015, 00:08   #28
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Old November 26th, 2015, 04:17   #29
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These look much better than tornados, what do you suppose the size difference is? Will they fit a 40mm grenade pouch?

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Old November 26th, 2015, 04:24   #30
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Unfortunately no. While the body is a touch under 40mm, the big lug ring near the bottom is considerably larger in diameter. I tried, but I couldn't develop an impact tough coupling that stayed small in diameter. I could have welded the genade shut at that end and do away with the coupling, but then no dump reload.
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