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Old March 9th, 2010, 20:33   #46
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I would like to instantly transform my weapon platform from long range to short range or short range to long range with a flip of a switch. Here is the idea..

My eyes -> Reflex Sight -> 7x scope -> Target

The above example is a long range weapon configuration when both reflex sight and scope are perfectly aligned. I am looking for a tiltable scope mount, so when I want to instantly transform my m4 into a short range weapon, I could easily "tilt" the 7x scope 45 degree to the side of the rile, so my reflex sight has an unobstructed view to the target as follow:

My eyes -> Reflex sight --------------> Target


Have any of you seen any tiltable scope mount?

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Old March 9th, 2010, 20:53   #47
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You mean a flip to the side magnifier? They're so common it's not funny.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 21:07   #48
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You mean a flip to the side magnifier? They're so common it's not funny.

Would you be able to show me some samples in any online retails? I could not found it. All of the scope mounts are fixed (untiltable).
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Old March 9th, 2010, 21:12   #49
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Just look here. You can get them for both Aimpoint style red dots and EOTech style Holo-sights.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=81623
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Old March 9th, 2010, 21:14   #50
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Just look here. You can get them for both Aimpoint style red dots and EOTech style Holo-sights.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=81623
Thanks. I have two questions


1. Is the tiltable part belongs to the scope or the scope mount?
2. Which configuration is correct?

My eyes -> Reflex sight -> scope -> target
*or*
My eyes -> scope -> Reflex sight -> target

I would imagine the movable part would have some kind of lock to lock the position in place for preventing any wobbling.

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Old March 9th, 2010, 21:24   #51
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Thanks. I have two questions


1. Is the tiltable part belongs to the scope or the scope mount?
2. Which configuration is correct?

My eyes -> Reflex sight -> scope -> target
*or*
My eyes -> scope -> Reflex sight -> target

I would imagine the movable part would have some kind of lock to lock the position in place for preventing any wobbling.
My eyes -> Magnifier -> Reflex sight -> target (this one is correct)

PS: If you look carefully on lots of forum, you could find a Hurricane Eotech for about 100$ shipped..... (Hurricane Eotechs are the best... )
(got mine from AirsoftPacific, BNIB...100$ shipped to Canada )
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Old March 9th, 2010, 21:29   #52
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My eyes -> Magnifier -> Reflex sight -> target (this one is correct)
Would you explain why Magnifier go before the reflex sight? The purpose of reflex allow user to aim at a different angle. It would make more sense as follow:

My eyes -(aiming at different angle) -> Reflex sight -> scope - (magnify) -> Target
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Old March 9th, 2010, 21:32   #53
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Would you explain why Magnifier go before the reflex sight? The purpose of reflex allow user to aim at a different angle. It would make more sense as follow:

My eyes -(aiming at different angle) -> Reflex sight -> scope - (magnify) -> Target
Because of the Eye Relief, of the magnifier, with is usually around 1.5" to 3" if you're eye is too far from the optimal eye relief distance, you wont see anything....
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Old March 9th, 2010, 23:39   #54
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My eyes -> Magnifier -> Reflex sight -> target (this one is correct)

PS: If you look carefully on lots of forum, you could find a Hurricane Eotech for about 100$ shipped..... (Hurricane Eotechs are the best... )
(got mine from AirsoftPacific, BNIB...100$ shipped to Canada )
Actually real EOtechs are the best, don't get confused

The magnifier goes in between your eyes and the sight as it magnifies the field of view that the sight covers. If you put the magnifier after then the reticle will not appear to lie on your target as intended by the holographic technology but rather lies on your magnifier. Someone correct me if Im wrong.

Also you don't need a 7x scope. That would be WAAAAY too much for airsoft. I have a 3-9X50 scope I use with my M14, but its mostly for appearance as I never take it off the lowest setting. I think Amos uses a 1.5X setting for his VSR10 bolt action.
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Old March 10th, 2010, 00:18   #55
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Actually real EOtechs are the best, don't get confused

The magnifier goes in between your eyes and the sight as it magnifies the field of view that the sight covers. If you put the magnifier after then the reticle will not appear to lie on your target as intended by the holographic technology but rather lies on your magnifier. Someone correct me if Im wrong.

Also you don't need a 7x scope. That would be WAAAAY too much for airsoft. I have a 3-9X50 scope I use with my M14, but its mostly for appearance as I never take it off the lowest setting. I think Amos uses a 1.5X setting for his VSR10 bolt action.

When you mean magnifier, you actually meant rifle scope, not red dot scope. Rifle scope without reticule or dot. Am I correct?
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Old March 10th, 2010, 00:21   #56
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See the pics posted earlier with an Eotech? The L shaped part is the holographic sight which is closer to the muzzle. The checkered tube shaped part with a flip to side mount is the Eotech magnifier. Don't confuse them with telescopic sights.
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Old March 10th, 2010, 00:27   #57
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No, the magnifier is like a monocular. It goes between either the red dot or the holosight. It just magnifies.

It's a dedicated small optic, not at all like a rifle scope or red dot that had the reticle omitted.
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Old March 10th, 2010, 00:42   #58
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I was talking about replica Eotechs..... Off course nothing beat the real deal..... I had t chance to try a RS one at a Basspro in Orlando, FL.....
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Old March 10th, 2010, 08:13   #59
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Which sight is better?

Airsoft Surgeon Reflex Red Dot Sight

Hurricane 556 Replica Sight
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Old March 10th, 2010, 08:54   #60
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Completely different options. The first is mini RDS and the second is a regular full size RDS.
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