TM ak47 worth it?

[wildcard]

Originally Posted by Grattoj2

Also Also, if you want a slightly higher ROF and trigger response, you can't use a 9.6v battery in a stock TM, because the internals can't take it (I know from experience). People are always saying how TM internals are reliable, which is most likely true, don't get me wrong, but having to stay on the low voltage and FPS in my mind does not scream "reliable". If you end up swapping the body and internals, you just paid $500 for furniture and a mechbox shell, doesn't seem right to me.

I've used 9.6 1700 mah large in a battery pouch on my stock TM Spetznaz since 91 the only time it failed was when the stock plastic bushing gave out in 2000

[Dart]

From what I can tell about the TM ak's is that they are "tuned" to work well stock, how ever when you start to change things is when you have the issue.

Yah I do find the lower fps a little frusterating at times, expecially when the other guy can see my rounds fly and literaly dodge them...

Other than the ugly ass body, what do you guys think of rhe G&G one, seems to be the only AK not mentioned here.

[cerealmaniac]

Originally Posted by Grattoj2

Also, CA's (new ones, anyway) come stock with a metal body, metal hop up, and steel bushings, 3 upgrades you don't have to worry about.

If you end up swapping the body and internals, you just paid $500 for furniture and a mechbox shell, doesn't seem right to me.

correct my if i'm wrong. but a new CA costs just about the same?($500)i wouldn't mind owning one but again, they are scarce in canada. things i keep in mind are "if you want to play, u gotta pay". especially for the canadian airsoft community.:infantry:

[Spike]

I think new CA Ak's are between 500 and 600, yeah, there's a few retailers out here that have them, I don't know if any are in stock at the moment though.

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by Dart

Other than the ugly ass body, what do you guys think of rhe G&G one, seems to be the only AK not mentioned here.

Originally Posted by Amos

As for the G&G VS TM... In all my practical experience... the TM guns have ALWAYS out preformed the G&G ones.

the G&G ones have no widely available parts available for them either... that's an instant failure right there.

There's some advice on G&G's from a guy who knows a lot.

[yuhaoyang]

I'm pretty sure that the new TM AKs come with aluminium receivers, it's been mentioned on redwolf, and I think the TM website, although I'm not sure about the latter.

[Amos]

New TM AK's are version 9 and I don't think there are many in Canada...

The TM AK I'm talking about.. is the V3 TM AK47

[TokyoSeven]

Thanks for clarifying all that Amos.
So that means the Ak74s being put out by TM are the V9 simulated blow backs guns, and that in itself is an entirely different thread.

My vote stands for the Tokyo Marui V3 AK.
If I had to have a second vote it would be for the classic army SLR105 series.

[cerealmaniac]

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven

Thanks for clarifying all that Amos.
So that means the Ak74s being put out by TM are the V9 simulated blow backs guns, and that in itself is an entirely different thread.

My vote stands for the Tokyo Marui V3 AK.
If I had to have a second vote it would be for the classic army SLR105 series.

Amen to that. i also want to add this applies to all V3 AK series from TM. My ak47s has had no problems with 3rd party parts either.

[pusangani]

TM AK FTW!!

If you like shitty plastic externals and low fps hehhehe

I can't believe ppl are still touting tm as being an option for the ak user, if you want metal and wood (like any true airsofter should) then buy a Real Sword, can't afford that, then get a VFC or CA at least the metal body justifies the price, what does TM have except some magical gearbox that gives some ppl wood, really what does it have to justify costing more than a full metal a Dboys or even Cyma

Ppl say dboys and other clone internals are garbage, I've owner 10+ dboys drop in gearboxes and have never had one fail on me EVER, and they are dirt fucking cheap to replace if they ever did so what's the big deal about TM? $500+ for some shitty creaky plastic externals, outdated "battery tray" design and the limitation of only having 8.4v stick batts fit without modification?

Seriously?

Yall need to wake up and realize that while tm might be a great company that does alot of its own R&D etc, its v3 original ak's are utter shite, any ak enthusiast will tell u so

[cerealmaniac]

Originally Posted by pusangani

TM AK FTW!!
If you like shitty plastic externals and low fps hehhehe

hm.. high FPS doesn't mean it's a better gun.

[pusangani]

Originally Posted by cerealmaniac

hm.. high FPS doesn't mean it's a better gun.

OMG!!? Really? I thought it was the most important thing?

[Amos]

Originally Posted by pusangani

TM AK FTW!!

If you like shitty plastic externals and low fps hehhehe

I can't believe ppl are still touting tm as being an option for the ak user, if you want metal and wood (like any true airsofter should) then buy a Real Sword, can't afford that, then get a VFC or CA at least the metal body justifies the price, what does TM have except some magical gearbox that gives some ppl wood, really what does it have to justify costing more than a full metal a Dboys or even Cyma

Ppl say dboys and other clone internals are garbage, I've owner 10+ dboys drop in gearboxes and have never had one fail on me EVER, and they are dirt fucking cheap to replace if they ever did so what's the big deal about TM? $500+ for some shitty creaky plastic externals, outdated "battery tray" design and the limitation of only having 8.4v stick batts fit without modification?

Seriously?

Yall need to wake up and realize that while tm might be a great company that does alot of its own R&D etc, its v3 original ak's are utter shite, any ak enthusiast will tell u so

Since you've owned 10 or so Dboys gearboxes... how long have you used each of them for? (That might explain why they've been "trouble free")

The insides of a Dboys is honestly almost identical to a Kraken... So basically... You're getting a Kraken in a low-grade pot-metal dress...

The TM AK47 (Now an RPK) that I built had been around for roughly 6 years previous to me building it... and since It's became an RPK, it's gone through a minimum of 2000 BB's a game and it's been relatively problem free since.

When's the last time you've held a brand new TM AK47? Nothing on them creaks and they're very solid guns all around.

A TM AK47 shooting at 280 FPS will out-range and out-group a stock Dboys. All the Dboys stuff I've worked with has had horrible small issues that cause a bunch of fuck ups (Gearbox shells mis-aligned, bearings seized, MASSIVE air loss from the cylinder head and nozzle... not to mention having to fight with aftermarket parts for them to fit properly)

[Dart]

oh god amos VS puss... this won't end well.

[pusangani]

Can't say very long but the people I've sold them to in my various project guns have always been happy with tv performance

Its been a while since I held a new tm but honestly, Plastic is not very solid to me, I don't care how nice you think the fake wood finishnie or how nice and grey that receiver is, its still frigging plastic and that sux balls; I'm not advocating clones exclusively over tm either, obviously RS and VFC etc and better, but for ak's tm is the bottom of the pile for me

As for aftermarket parts fitting, why do ppl feel that they must upgrade when a stock dboys box already has a nice fps and good airseal especially with element hopups (oh god no cheap brand parts!) so I don't know why this should be an issue