Airsoft Prices - Should it be going down?

[ACCL]

Originally Posted by Adamlxlx

Prices are rape. Look at ANY non-Canadian site. Your bum will hurt from the rape. Has been since I started in 2001. Rape rape rape with a little more rape

Yea if you look overseas the prices are like almost free. In Taiwan where VFC's are made, a VFC SCAR or HK416 is around $300~400max.....I would know...

[Gunny_McSmith]

haha, prices will go down one day... as soon as the retailers start dropping prices...lol

[AS92-RD]

The retailers are here to make money, if you don't like it then start retailing and drop your prices. They will follow suit if they want to stay in business. And since when has anything in Canada cost the same as America?

[rustysniper]

Canadian prices will never be comparable to US or Asian prices...our market size does not allow this. Has nothing to do with Canadian retailers lowering prices, If they do...they will go out of business because they will never do the volume to make up for the lost margin. Economy of scale...simple as that!

[Gunny_McSmith]

Originally Posted by AS92-RD

The retailers are here to make money, if you don't like it then start retailing and drop your prices. They will follow suit if they want to stay in business. And since when has anything in Canada cost the same as America?

haha.... gimme a week or 2 and you'll see...

[SSjon]

Originally Posted by ExtraExtra

You've likely heard about the price of automobiles going down on this side of the border due to the strength of the canadian dollar.

Where is the source for this information? More than likely it's just hearsay.

[Rugger_can]

Originally Posted by ex

NOPE....has nothing to do with the value of the Loonie.

+1

[SSjon]

Originally Posted by rustysniper

Canadian prices will never be comparable to US or Asian prices...our market size does not allow this. Has nothing to do with Canadian retailers lowering prices, If they do...they will go out of business because they will never do the volume to make up for the lost margin. Economy of scale...simple as that!

No, this does not hold true for Airsoft. Economies of scale refers to production, and last I checked most guns are imported not produced in Canada. Our high prices come from our tough Airsoft import laws and basic supply and demand. Retailers who go through the trouble to acquire or import guns will want to make a nice profit and the fact that there are very few retailers prices are pushed up.

[rustysniper]

Originally Posted by SSjon

No, this does not hold true for Airsoft. Economies of scale refers to production, and last I checked most guns are imported not produced in Canada. Our high prices come from our tough Airsoft import laws and basic supply and demand. Retailers who go through the trouble to acquire or import guns will want to make a nice profit and the fact that there are very few retailers prices are pushed up.

Economy of scale also applies to importation. Canadian retailers can never do the volume to purchase at prices which will allow them to compete with US and Asian markets. Couple this with the high costs of bringing a product to the Canadian market and strict importation laws...we do not have the ingredients for low pricing.

Any retailer will tell you that he wants to sell his product at the MOST competitive prices he can.....but in turn they must do the volume in order to to make up for the reduced margins.. If they don't do the volume they can't keep the doors open.

I knew some day that that MBA would pay off....lol

[SSjon]

Originally Posted by rustysniper

Economy of scale also applies to importation. Canadian retailers can never do the volume to purchase at prices which will allow them to compete with US and Asian markets. Couple this with the high costs of bringing a product to the Canadian market and strict importation laws...we do not have the ingredients for low pricing.

Any retailer will tell you that he wants to sell his product at the MOST competitive prices he can.....but in turn they must do the volume in order to to make up for the reduced margins.. If they don't do the volume they can't keep the doors open.

I knew some day that that MBA would pay off....lol

Economies of scale has nothing to do with importation, it may do a lot with firms exporting but not imports. Lets say for your sake that demand really is low, Canadian retailers would have to lower the amount they supply/import and thus lower the prices to match the market equilibrium price to keep up the volume. If they cannot cover the costs then it is no longer profitable to stay in business, which means the efficiency scale of the market is small and there should be very few retailers.

As you can see low demand means less retailers but lower prices, I say that there is high demand in Canada for Airsoft, and not just based on the fact that Wal-Mart and Canadian Tire sell them in every one of their stores. Focusing on "good" models, very few retailers are allowed to import them legally into the country meaning a low supply. Simple demand and supply dictates that low supply leads to high demand. Where there is high demand there will be high prices regardless of volume. As well as the fact that there are naturally few retailers they could easily corner the market and jack up the prices.

[rustysniper]

Originally Posted by SSjon

Economies of scale has nothing to do with importation, it may do a lot with firms exporting but not imports. Lets say for your sake that demand really is low, Canadian retailers would have to lower the amount they supply/import and thus lower the prices to match the market equilibrium price to keep up the volume. If they cannot cover the costs then it is no longer profitable to stay in business, which means the efficiency scale of the market is small and there should be very few retailers.

As you can see low demand means less retailers but lower prices, I say that there is high demand in Canada for Airsoft, and not just based on the fact that Wal-Mart and Canadian Tire sell them in every one of their stores. Focusing on "good" models, very few retailers are allowed to import them legally into the country meaning a low supply. Simple demand and supply dictates that low supply leads to high demand. Where there is high demand there will be high prices regardless of volume. As well as the fact that there are naturally few retailers they could easily corner the market and jack up the prices.

LOL....I am in the import business....you know not what you speak grasshoppa.....
I love it when people who are not in business lecture on topics they have no experience in.....

And FYI.."SCALE" applies to many aspects of business.....not just manufacturing as you like to insist. Supply vs Demand is a scale.....Cost vs Production is a scale.....Ability to purchase vs Ability to Sell is a scale.....and so on......look it up

"Economies of scale, in microeconomics, refers to the cost advantages that a business obtains due to expansion. There are factors that cause a producer or purchasers average cost per unit to fall as the scale of output or volume is increased. "Economies of scale" is a long run concept and refers to reductions in unit cost"

[ACCL]

When it all comes down to it; blame the shitty government and their lame laws. Don't blame the retailers.

[Jimski]

let's invent Social Airsoft.
taxpayers would get a$$-raped 23.4% more and the cash would go to a Canadian Social Airsoft Fund that would make sure poor people get their airsoft, and also that would drive Walmart's stuff's prices down, plus it would help employment by creating jobs for administering all this crap.
After a while people would demand that be created a Right For Free Airsoft, and the next conservative pm would give CDNStalker the Order Of Canada, Brian McIlmoyle would say it's bad for his health and T7 would ask if it vibrates.

[redzaku]

hmmm.... does that mean that in order for the price to drop, they must mass produce it so quick and have so many to arm the world 2 times over? sounds like they need to do what the russians did.... but will quality be the same?

[Redzephyr]

Originally Posted by Jimski

After a while people would demand that be created a Right For Free Airsoft, and the next conservative pm would give CDNStalker the Order Of Canada, Brian McIlmoyle would say it's bad for his health and T7 would ask if it vibrates.

I don't... I don't have words to describe how much I'm laughing right now.