should i buy a sig 552 for $230 or a Velocity Arms V16a3 for $280 (http://torontoairsoft.com/product.php?id_product=472)

[Con Murder]

You wont be happy with the SIG 552 (I own the cybergun) unless you redo the mech-box. From top to bottom, over and under. To pull a decent spring for out doors you need a large type battery at 8.4v or higher. No room in 552 only can get enough power with a lipo. And just so you know, lipo is goona wear everything out faster unless you spend more $$$ to get good parts and mosfett. I purchased mine for $280 and tossed in another $300 before I was satisfied. My first bb jam tore my hop rubber and now its down to the old stock rubber again.

Basically I knew I would have trouble finding parts and gear for this item, threw down some mad cash and really just wish I had waited a year and a half for ICS to get in stock (local shop).


EDIT: LOL That duty version is like the worst thing ever! If you buy any of this and are happy please post so I can laugh some more!

[Rotting]

I like to look at my SG552 as a "project gun". Out of the box, it is not performance worthy in any sense of the way. There are multiple things that limit it.

1) Mags are expensive, and not common. The midcaps are not cheap to purchase, and the low-caps are even more expensive to purchase.
2) The gearbox internals, aside from the gears, are not very good. The gears can hold their own for a while, I'm personally still using stock gears.
3) The hop-up is not cheap and is rather difficult to find. When you do find it, it costs a pretty penny since only TM makes a decent one (Note that the G3 hop-up is applicable, but requires you to modify your mechbox, which I am now suffering problems with. Do not do it).
4) A long list of other things.

I've written an extensive review that also has gotten a good amount of public rating rating and replies from the general public and their experience with it. Take a look at it. It is still incomplete on the disassembly manual, but that's just a technical problem since this computer is being stingy with getting the photos. Hoping to get a proper disassembly manual fully uploaded this summer, albeit being long overdue. Hoping to get the additional information I have merged into the review once I've incorporated it properly into the review.

Link is here -> http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=87465


If you are looking to perform adequately outdoors without sacrificing indoor functionality, go with an M4. My brother runs an M4 and performs well in both areas. The M4 uses a 363mm inner barrel, which is long enough to get you decent shots mid-range in a forest-setting, as well as being short enough to maneuver effectively indoors. It's pretty much the cost-effective middle-ground between the M16 and SG552.

[coach]

sig552:
mag management is tougher because of the nubs on the sides. will always snag you pouch.
mags are harder to find unless you only run with highcaps. ugh!
not many people run 552's to share mags on the field when out of ammo.
shorter barrel length and collapsible stock for high maneuverability in a CQB environment.
8.4 mini


m16:
mag management is easy.
mags are cheap and easy to find everywhere.
easy to borrow mags on field when out of ammo
long barrel length with full stock makes quick cqb movements near impossible.
8.4 large

[Boyso]

I think we should wait until he's 18 to give that much advice, though.

[TaroBear]

Most people on this forum are going to tell you to get something in the AR series when you pit it against a SIG rifle. Sure, it looks awesome, but you really can't argue with the mountains of aftermarket parts that can go with an AR. From personal experience, I can tell you it's very frustrating to go shopping for parts and find out all the cool stuff was made for AR type models. And having owned both a P-90 and a SIG 552 now, I can tell you that you'll waste tons of money buying specific parts and magazines if you ever decide that you hate high caps (which are disgusting). I detest how bland AR type weapons are, and it shocks me that people keep buying them, but I'll admit that when I had an M4, I enjoyed being able to buy piles of mags for it for cheap.

[coach]

Originally Posted by LastSpartan

I think we should wait until he's 18 to give that much advice, though.

what advice? that was my 2 cent review. lol