CA M14 Trigger delay

[CDN_Stalker]

This should help, even if it's the manual for the G&G M14.

http://www.ottawavalleyairsoft.ca/im...Manual_G&G.pdf

Actually that doesn't help at all! Lol, sorry. Ok, from taking the stock off, release the large spring that operates the cocking handle (there's a guide yo have to unhook and remove to get the spring off). There are hex head screws on the sides and underneath, remove those to get the barrel assembly off. To get the upper receiver off there are two screws on one side and one on the other. Have to use a punch or allen key to push the pin out of the bolt release latch, remove that and make sure the spring is at hand, then get the screw under it. Upper receiver should come off. Black sheet metal thing on top of the cylinder has to be pushed............ forward I think (been a while since I worked on one), push the large pin up front (holds the bolt spring guide) then there it's the usual mechbox disassembly methods. Putting back together can be a bit of a pain, largely just because of the loading nozzle at the front of the mechbox, always gives me a headache because there is a little spring that holds it in place.

[ancorp]

Thanks, but still doesn't help me in the sense that I can't make the trigger guard move no matter what I do.

[CDN_Stalker]

Rearmost part of it needs to be pulled to the rear (effectively bending it very slightly, but it'll spring back) to unhook it, then pull the rear down and it'll swing away from the trigger. Then you just have to wiggle the entire thing out. At the base of the trigger guard is a dual latch thingy which locks into the mechbox. By swinging the trigger guard away you are unlatching it.

So put the gun upside down, pull back on the guard, swing out and remove. Is actually quite easy, putting it back in might take a few attempt to get everything lined up though.

[ancorp]

That's what I've been trying to do. And now after spending 10 mins doing it, I finally got it to move. Buy it's a lot stiffer then a TM.

Thanks, will continue the take down.

Cheers,
Alex

[ancorp]

Alright well - it fires fine with the trigger group off. I.e if I just use the internal trigger. No matter how slow I pull it, it fires perfect on semi or full, so it looks like a non internal problem?

[CDN_Stalker]

Starting to sound like it. I found on one of the M14s I worked on I could fire it easily without the trigger guard on, but putting it on would start to seem more and more like the trigger wouldn't quite make it far enough to engage the linkage. Was the G&G that had that problem, assume the CA would since it's a copy.

[ancorp]

Alrighty, and what solution did you come to, if any?

[CDN_Stalker]

I recall grinding down part of the trigger itself to allow it to travel further forward to push the linkage to shoot it.

[ancorp]

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker

I recall grinding down part of the trigger itself to allow it to travel further forward to push the linkage to shoot it.

Ah, grinding was one of the last things I was hoping to do, but I guess I'll have to. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience mate, much appreciated.

Cheers,
Alex

[CDN_Stalker]

Will only be appreciated if it fixes your problem. lol

Seriously, the G&G I had to deal with was fired for a few thousand rounds on semi only, and it wore out a lot of parts, as well as that arcing problem that cut 4 out of 5mm width of the contacts. Then while working on it and testing it, semi got harder and harder to acheive, and in the end it was full auto only. Extremely shitty materials used in the G&G anyways, so it's not surprising that the previous owner wore it out from semi only use.

Oh ya, I assume there is a CA motor in that gun. The gun I worked on had a G&G motor, and because the gun was shooting around 420fps or so, the motor coil ended up developing a dead (literally burned!) section that would cease the gun form shooting until the motor shaft was rotated, then would get another few cycles out of it until it stopped again. I told the previous owner his G&G motor caught on fire due to the heavier spring, so he bought a short shaft EG1000 and the problem was fixed for good.

[ancorp]

Hah, that G&G sure sounds like crap. Hopefully CA did some improvements internally wise, which I assume they have. Besides this slight trigger problem, the gun itself is very, very nice, and shoots great stock, 310fps with .2gs and has to be at least 15-20rounds a second!

Cheers,
Alex

[ancorp]

Thank you sir, a bit of filing on the trigger, and it fires reliably now, at the end of it's travel. Gotta say, this thing shoots nice.

Thanks again mate!
Alex

[CDN_Stalker]

Originally Posted by ancorp

Thank you sir, a bit of filing on the trigger, and it fires reliably now, at the end of it's travel. Gotta say, this thing shoots nice.

Thanks again mate!
Alex

You are shitting me, that actually worked?!? I was kidding!!!





Awesome, glad to help. Hehe

[ancorp]

Hehe I'm as surprised as you are :P