XP/Specarms Raided by CBSA

lt_poncho · September 8th, 2006, 16:34

Yeah guys - just before you go posting your speculations about what YOU THINK, try picking up a phone and calling someone that, perhaps,...might be 'in the know' and 'on the ground' beforehand...if you catch my drift.

Please keep in mind that these are often 'exercises' to make examples, publically or otherwise - those around long enough see the relationship between enforcement and events such as this. Call me if you need clarification/examples.

Treadstone71 · September 8th, 2006, 16:39

I SAW BROTHER PONCHO WITH THE DEVIL!

LET'S BUILD US A WITCH BURNIN' PYRE!

amano999 · September 8th, 2006, 16:45

So someone did get raided, but they are not cracking down on air soft? Just making and example of these ppl?

thephenom · September 8th, 2006, 16:53

I don't really understand what the "exercise" involves, do they just go in take all the merchandise and other equipments, investigate and return everything back to after?

I'm confused about its implication.

BloodSport · September 8th, 2006, 16:54

Basically from the info gathered they do this now and then, and the whole "TM Banned in BC" last year, which no longer exists was one of them. Its a grey area on the import liscenses out west, which unlike the ones in Ontario do not always specify what the retailers are allowed to do with the guns once imported. Typically Government BS.

I'm trying to reach Terry at AK to see if this affected him as well.

*Edit - just talked to Terry and he was not affected by this, so only Vancouver area.

CBSA = Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA)

Porkchop · September 8th, 2006, 16:54

So, what does the Canadian Billiard and Snooker Association have to do with airsoft???

trufret · September 8th, 2006, 17:01

they are pissed our hobby is more interesting

hattrick · September 8th, 2006, 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by thephenom

I don't really understand what the "exercise" involves, do they just go in take all the merchandise and other equipments, investigate and return everything back to after?

I'm confused about its implication.

I am straight up confused...
You think they're even going to check the computers? Would they not see that they are linked to other retailers, and in turn go for them? I have a feeling the guns will be returned, but the computers maybe not.

Best of luck to those involved.

Daes · September 8th, 2006, 17:36

Due to this being the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA), will this affect anything in Customs or are the two seperate? Just wondering, I have some Redwolf stuff sitting in BC customs right now (standard stuff, gear, adapters, mags, etc.)... Taking longer than normal...

-Daes

Pip · September 8th, 2006, 17:48

Yeah this is confusing...i was hoping to stop in at Spec arms and Daves on the 17th before or after the ferry game

hope things get sorted out by then...i'm telling you BC is just plain fucking weird..

Freedom Fighter · September 8th, 2006, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pip

i'm telling you BC is just plain fucking weird..

It's because of all the drugs out there.

lt_poncho · September 8th, 2006, 18:12

Pip - it's all the weed man! It's all about the weed...kidding.

If you have something in customs personally, no, it's not going to take any longer than normal. This was a specific exercise that targeted a specific scope, without going into the weeds with the details - I would simply say if you have not been contacted yet by Revenue Canada/CBSA yet then you need not worry. Going after a list of clients is way out of scope - do not be confused with any implications to yourselves. Especially you, Chicken Little!

Gotta go - I hear some peasants at the door with pitchforks...(Time to go, Lucifer/Miles!)

HC.BDS · September 8th, 2006, 18:42

That is bad news.
I have some gears sitting in the B.C customs right now too. Has been a little while, I hope they don't take my body armor away. :cry:

SBranson23 · September 8th, 2006, 19:33

I dropped by XP after work yesterday to visit the boys to be greeted by CBSA agents asking if I worked there and an "empty" store. To be clear, the only airsoft items taken were AEG's and GBB's (and NBB's). All the accessories were left so those concerned about their gear in customs shouldn't need to worry.
I won't go into any details as the owner of XP had asked that no posts be made and to let the lawyers handle the matter.
Interesting to hear though that only Vancouver area stores were hit.

Flint · September 8th, 2006, 19:36

Danm, I was just about to order some stuff from SpecArms, guess I better hold off on that or look else where.

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September 8th, 2006, 16:39	#17
Treadstone71 Ain't gay, but $20 is $20 Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Downtown Toronto	I SAW BROTHER PONCHO WITH THE DEVIL! LET'S BUILD US A WITCH BURNIN' PYRE! __________________ Remember kids, go down the road, not across the street! Here's a sharp knife, have fun!

September 8th, 2006, 16:54	#20
BloodSport Traveling Man Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan	Basically from the info gathered they do this now and then, and the whole "TM Banned in BC" last year, which no longer exists was one of them. Its a grey area on the import liscenses out west, which unlike the ones in Ontario do not always specify what the retailers are allowed to do with the guns once imported. Typically Government BS. I'm trying to reach Terry at AK to see if this affected him as well. *Edit - just talked to Terry and he was not affected by this, so only Vancouver area. CBSA = Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) __________________ Saskatchewan Age Verifier! Contact for more Info.

September 8th, 2006, 16:54	#21
Porkchop Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: St Hubert QC	So, what does the Canadian Billiard and Snooker Association have to do with airsoft??? __________________ Regards, Porkchop Cry "Haddock" and let slip the hounds of Beer [-brought to you courtesy of Salamander Army -]

September 8th, 2006, 16:34	#16
lt_poncho Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: GTA	Yeah guys - just before you go posting your speculations about what YOU THINK, try picking up a phone and calling someone that, perhaps,...might be 'in the know' and 'on the ground' beforehand...if you catch my drift. Please keep in mind that these are often 'exercises' to make examples, publically or otherwise - those around long enough see the relationship between enforcement and events such as this. Call me if you need clarification/examples.

September 8th, 2006, 16:45	#18
amano999 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scarborough, Ontario, Canada	So someone did get raided, but they are not cracking down on air soft? Just making and example of these ppl?

September 8th, 2006, 16:53	#19
thephenom Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toronto	I don't really understand what the "exercise" involves, do they just go in take all the merchandise and other equipments, investigate and return everything back to after? I'm confused about its implication.

September 8th, 2006, 17:01	#22
trufret Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Windsor Ontario	they are pissed our hobby is more interesting __________________ My OLD BUY/SELL Rating Site Admin: Windsor Airsoft Club

September 8th, 2006, 17:36	#24
Daes Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Victoria, BC	Due to this being the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA), will this affect anything in Customs or are the two seperate? Just wondering, I have some Redwolf stuff sitting in BC customs right now (standard stuff, gear, adapters, mags, etc.)... Taking longer than normal... -Daes __________________

September 8th, 2006, 18:12	#27
lt_poncho Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: GTA	Pip - it's all the weed man! It's all about the weed...kidding. If you have something in customs personally, no, it's not going to take any longer than normal. This was a specific exercise that targeted a specific scope, without going into the weeds with the details - I would simply say if you have not been contacted yet by Revenue Canada/CBSA yet then you need not worry. Going after a list of clients is way out of scope - do not be confused with any implications to yourselves. Especially you, Chicken Little! Gotta go - I hear some peasants at the door with pitchforks...(Time to go, Lucifer/Miles!)

September 8th, 2006, 18:42	#28
HC.BDS Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2002	That is bad news. I have some gears sitting in the B.C customs right now too. Has been a little while, I hope they don't take my body armor away. :cry:

September 8th, 2006, 19:33	#29
SBranson23 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Victoria,B.C.	I dropped by XP after work yesterday to visit the boys to be greeted by CBSA agents asking if I worked there and an "empty" store. To be clear, the only airsoft items taken were AEG's and GBB's (and NBB's). All the accessories were left so those concerned about their gear in customs shouldn't need to worry. I won't go into any details as the owner of XP had asked that no posts be made and to let the lawyers handle the matter. Interesting to hear though that only Vancouver area stores were hit.

September 8th, 2006, 19:36	#30
Flint Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Brampton	Danm, I was just about to order some stuff from SpecArms, guess I better hold off on that or look else where.

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