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Old December 8th, 2012, 13:18   #16
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or for $59.95 you could gett into a MOLLE chest rig that would hold up longer, do more and give you better mobility.
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Old December 8th, 2012, 13:47   #17
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Of all the things posted I'd get ether one of these two and would recommend the 10 speed chest rig over the Pantac. Its real steel gear that will last a long time and is very versatile. Best advice anyone here can give you is "you buy cheap you buy twice" and theirs nothing wrong with a chest rig you can always buy a more expensive PC when you have more cash
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Old December 8th, 2012, 18:44   #18
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I think you have alreaday made a decision primarily based on being able to get to the store and the price.. The rest is just justification of an already-made decision , coupled with the haste and excitement of wanting to get it "now". Just an observation, we've all been there.

If I am at all close with my guess, then your best option is to visit Army Issue and check out one of the 3 Condor setups above. These rigs will take you much farther than the stuff you posted, can be reconfigured to your heart's content, are actually decent quality sewing and fabric, easy to transport, have excellent adjustment and comfort (I love Condor's rotating fastener), and stay awesomely cool in the spring/summer and in indoor play.

You will NOT enjoy that ARK vest in indoor play or in the summer, guaranteed. You will be boiling and unhappy and that vest will end up in a closet somewhere, with your actual rig ending up closer to the suggestions here. Just take that short cut now
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Old December 8th, 2012, 19:46   #19
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I would also recommend attending more games and spending some quality talk time with more experienced players who have their gear figured out, everybody loves to be asked about their setup and why they built it the way they did. You'll get a lot of good answers.

It really helps to see stuff in person and understand why it works well. Guys like Skeletor above are always around in the gear threads telling people to pay attention to the basics: functionality, stitching, etc... None of these things has to cost a lot of money, but a lot of the Toronto surplus stores sell outright junk to unsuspecting people.

The more experienced guys on this thread who keep pushing these rigs are not gear whores, they've been around the bend a few times and know what works well.. It takes a while to really test your gear and settle on a configuration that works. Often something that sounded awesome when you first suggested it or saw it in a store doesn't actually work well in practice. There's a lot of collective wisdom on the forum from a lot of guys that collectively abused a lot of gear... I'm just starting to scratch the surface myself as I go through the threads, learn from teammates experimenting with their gear, and abuse my own stuff. In any case, starting from a clean, simple, lightweight MOLLE rig is always safe because you can do a lot with it without spending a lot.

If you catch me at UA on a thursday night I can gladly show you how I arrived at my setup, what's good/bad about it, and how you can get something similar on a super-tight budget. Stay away from the stuff at cheeseball stores though! And go check out Army Issue.
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Old December 8th, 2012, 21:32   #20
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Right now you don't know what you need other than a vest that has lots of pouchs all sewn that fits your budget. Today no pistol, but tomorrow you may have several pistols and you may want it on your vest or leg. You need a molle vest that can be configured.

If your budget is $100 00 and that vest you picked fits the budget will be junk if you can't configure it the way you like. Unless you are willing to live with its layout forever.

Go to Army Issue and try out a few vests and get advice to find that right vest. Don't buy from a picture unless you know exactly what you are looking for.

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Old December 8th, 2012, 22:05   #21
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You can also check at the classified section, there are vests for sale sometimes that might fit your needs.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 00:55   #22
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if I may, break away from the mold of this conversation. lol.

I have 4 vests, all acm shit, all different, (2 rrv, a paintball style, and one similar to the one you posted)

I have no complaints so far,(had to restich a strap on a rrv, but for $15 from airsoft-club.com its hardly something to through your arms up about lol)

When it comes to money and airsoft sometimes I have to sacrifice one for the other. (ie gun stuff vs gear stuff). You dont see alot of that talk on these forums. lol

Most of these guys eat sleep and breath airsoft though, and I play from april - october maybe twice a month, so how we treat our gear might be totally different.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 01:18   #23
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If you're just running indoor, that's more than enough tbh
My buddy first game yesterday and all he had was my belt, dump pouch and 4 tacos, only had a p90 w/ 2 hi-caps and never really had ammo issues
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Old December 9th, 2012, 19:57   #24
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dump* pouches .. Yea I'd prefer to not weight 30 pounds more after the game I guess I should get a basic Molle Rig correct me if im wrong and build it up from there ..I wont lie i do like the design of the one i posted but I believe you guys saying that the quality might not be there

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Old December 9th, 2012, 20:07   #25
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i'm confused lol
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Old December 10th, 2012, 11:49   #26
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dump* pouches .. Yea I'd prefer to to weight 30 pounds more after the game I guess I should get a basic Molle Rig correct me if im wrong and build it up from there ..I wont lie i do like the design of the one i posted but I believe you guys saying that the quality might not be there
Go see Jeroon at Armyissue. He can hand-hold you though a selection process that won't leave you broke or holding a piece of useless kit you bought without knowing any better.
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Old December 10th, 2012, 12:45   #27
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dump* pouches .. Yea I'd prefer to to weight 30 pounds more after the game I guess I should get a basic Molle Rig correct me if im wrong and build it up from there ..I wont lie i do like the design of the one i posted but I believe you guys saying that the quality might not be there
If you really like that vest then buy it.

Don't worry about quality since you are buying on a budget.
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Old December 10th, 2012, 15:37   #28
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If you want to buy a vest ONCE buy a decent MOLLE vest. Don't skimp out and buy what is cheapest because in the end you will actually be spending more. Do not buy one that already has pouches sewn in. These are generally junk and will rip or tear on you. You can thank me later!
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Old December 10th, 2012, 16:39   #29
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if I may, break away from the mold of this conversation. lol.

I have 4 vests, all acm shit, all different, (2 rrv, a paintball style, and one similar to the one you posted)

I have no complaints so far,(had to restich a strap on a rrv, but for $15 from airsoft-club.com its hardly something to through your arms up about lol)

When it comes to money and airsoft sometimes I have to sacrifice one for the other. (ie gun stuff vs gear stuff). You dont see alot of that talk on these forums. lol

Most of these guys eat sleep and breath airsoft though, and I play from april - october maybe twice a month, so how we treat our gear might be totally different.
Our gear takes an absolute shit kicking. Crye, Oakley, ESS, Eagle, Spec-Ops, Specialty Systems, High Speed Gear, etc. it does get very pricey, but some of my gear has held up years without issue. I'd suggest Condor rig, pouches, etc; and 5.11 BDUs if your on a budget. Their tough and well made.
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Old December 10th, 2012, 17:05   #30
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If you really like that vest then buy it.

Don't worry about quality since you are buying on a budget.
I'll disagree. You should worry about quality. Especially if you are on the budget. Shitty shit will fail and you will have to spend more money to replace it. I'll quote and highlight for ya (from another thread):

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To storage charge my battery and balance charge my battery, it needs both to be plugged in. Like everyone else I work and there is no way I can go into TA during the week, and considering I paid 35$ for the lipo, there iS no way I want to leave it at a full charge, for a week or even more.
Also bought tactical knee pads there on sale from 35$ to 10$. The plastic mount for the strap snapped on both knee pads first time trying them on.
Considering I use to work at a paintball proshop/field, I know prices of inventory the owner pays and to go from 35$ to 10$ is a sale of 250% off so I know they knew they where garbadge, and decided to sell anyway...... Very disappointed.
As Morb suggested, hit up ArmyIssue. Try try different rigs on and see what fits right.

If you want to take a look at some really good gear - go to One Shot Tactical in Trenton. Awesome kit and awesome prices. Been buying kit there for a long time. Service is top notch.
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