Mandatory things needed for airsoft.

[Wolf427]

Originally Posted by ShelledPants

Good idea. Lets get snarky.

Its the newbie tank, its here for a reason right? I prefer getting answers from people on forums, rather than googling things and finding articles on the subject in question. Hence why I joined the forum in the first place. I'm just trying to figure things out, and I have yet to find a thread specifying things you should have, or need in order to play.
Keep in mind, I'm a friendly.

[Wolf427]

Originally Posted by coach

Bare minimum:
Paintball goggles
Primary w/decent battery
2-3 mid caps
Bag if Bastards
Proper foot wear for the environment you plan to play in.




Noob tank or not, you admitted you did not try very hard to find the plethora of threads created to avoid posts like yours. You said you read the rules yet you neglected to try using the search function or to read through the FAQ's!



So you still want to call Brian out?

I did look through the FAQ's, so I must have missed a thread explaining what is needed. Also tried using the search function, which did me no good.

Feel free to link me if there are threads already covering this.

[Wolf427]

Well would you look at that, little more searching, and I found a thread (http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=58784), its a little vague on some stuff, but covers a lot. The lists in this thread helped a lot too.
Next time I guess I'll look around a good bit more, I tend to just post threads without doing too much as far as looking around goes.
Anyways, my apologies if I come off as an ass. I always tend to look like one on the forums. I'd rather not be on people's bad sides.
Thanks for the help again.

[Ricochet]

He meant research on ASC, not google. There is so much info on almost every subject, you could easily get your foundation and then politely ask us to fill in the specifics instead. Much of the information is widely discussed, and evolved over the years in many threads. There will be a lot of reading, but you get used to weeding through. Also Brian McIlmoyle is a well respected and long standing member here on ASC, you are not. My suggestion is to make friends not enemy's.

On to your original question.

-What kind of airsoft are you interested in?
-How much will you be playing?
-What's your local scene like?
-What's your budget?
-Is there anything specific your interested in?

These are a few things to consider before asking your question. Some people use tens of thousands of dollars worth of real military gear to play in endurance games where you'll see everything from night vision to humvees, and others run around with clear plastic toys and a pair of paintball goggles buying BBs when they can afford it; and everything in between.

[FirestormX]

Originally Posted by lurkingknight

Okay, while you drop your mag, reach into your pocket, dig out your bag of BBs, open the door to mag, and start calmly dropping BBs into the mag, what do you think the other guy you've just been exchanging fire with is doing; having tea?

Wouldn't you have to do that with any mag you try to reload on the middle of a game?
Regardless, I used my imagination a little after I made that post, and realized that if you pop out low/mid cap mag, drop your gun to the sling, and pre-loaded speedloader, you can load up just as easy, if not easier. (You can use a pre-loaded speedloader to pump BBs into the high cap reserve, but you have to wind it afterwards). So I'll drop this.

As for searching, I've found that the forum search isn't too great for finding general stuff. I prefer to use google, and just append "site:airsoftcanada.com" to the query, so that it only returns results from [the non-AVed sections of] ASC

[Ricochet]

Hi-caps are a war crime!

[Brian McIlmoyle]

Originally Posted by Wolf427

Isn't that essentially a "google it" post?
Even I read the rules.
Don't want to be an ass, but this is the newbie tank.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=74264

hey no problem.. I can be and Ass enough for both of us.


so.. lets go..

hmm what do I need

1. goggles
2. a gun
3. BBs

I'm ready!

maybe we need a Newbie shoebox in the tank for the chronically lazy to post in.. you know to protect them from the people who will lift a finger to help themsleves.

[Wolf427]

Alright, so goggles, gun, and bb's.
Do you guys usually wear masks, or goggles/glasses?

[Brian McIlmoyle]

Originally Posted by Wolf427

Alright, so goggles, gun, and bb's.
Do you guys usually wear masks, or goggles/glasses?

see that is a good question

answer is , it depends

you first purchase MUST BE paintball approved goggles as most of the places you are likely to play at starting out will require them.

Full face vs just goggles is a personal choice .. and also modified by the type of games you tend to play.

For field play.. range is further.. shots are fewer you can get away with just goggles.



for close quarter play indoors.. full face is a very strong recomendation unless you like the gap tooth hillbilly smile.

also.. the "what to wear .. Goggles VS full face is a weekly topic here.. loads of threads on that..

But with anything you are starting out with.. start with full protection.. then reduce as you get more accustomed and comforatable to the the threat you face.

[Ricochet]

Originally Posted by Wolf427

Alright, so goggles, gun, and bb's.
Do you guys usually wear masks, or goggles/glasses?

There are small mesh masks that protect your teeth, and will not hamper you looking down your sights.

Sealed goggles are the "best" form of protection for your eyes. Approved ballistic, ANSI, or CSA rated only.

If you go with glasses make sure they completely cover your eye, and are secured to your head with a strap. If you trip they can come off. When you try a pair on, make sure you cannot touch your eye with a finger. Not all face structures, cheekbones, etc are the same.

[FirestormX]

In CQB especially, you should cover your entire face. For outdoor, I'd still highly recommend it, but it's not as likely that you'll be shot at a range where you'll lose a tooth.

I use goggles and lower half mask, or just a paintball mask if I'm feeling lazy.

[Wolf427]

I am not a fan of full face masks. I had a really nice one when I used to play paintball, but I feel that they restrict my senses a little too much. I'm hoping to be able to get away with military grade goggles, and one of those face covers made of mesh or the neoprene ones.
Will an airsoft bb really knock out a tooth?

[FirestormX]

Airsoft guns have the potential to propel BBs that travel with enough energy to shatter teeth, at least.
Your lips/cheeks do a bit to help, so keep your mouth shut, but they don't stop BBs.

If you get a lower face cover, go for something that's large, and goes over the ears, such as this:
http://www.khmountain.com/airsoft/pr...oducts_id=2371
As opposed to a small one, like this:
http://www.airsoftpark.com/strike-st...sk-p-3417.html
(I just google imaged those, so I'm not recommending you buy THAT EXACT ONE)
Those style masks are usually more comfortable, and have the added benefit of keeping BBs out of your ears.

The other big thing with the lower mask, is that it fits with your goggles. I bought a pair of goggles and face mask, and didn't even bother to try them on. I got home, and it turned out that the upper nose on the mask didn't fit into the nose area in the goggles.

With goggles, make sure it seals FULLY around the eye. If you get goggles that are too wide for your face, the strap might bend the goggles so they flex outwards at your nose, opening a gap at your nose allowing a BB to ricochet on up into your eye. This has happened to people (though it hasn't blinded anyone that I know of yet), and is pretty scary when it occurs. Wearing a helmet kind of helps keep your goggles seated nicely. If you plan to buy a helmet down the line, you should take that into consideration when you buy your goggles - large profile goggles will cause problems with your helmet (which sits low on your forehead) and mask alignment.

Paintball masks are simpler, because there's only a handful of companies that make popular ones, they're high quality, and well tested. Where as lower face masks can be complete crap, and not only let a BB right through, but explode little metal shards into your face (in a perfect storm type scenario). There's a lot of examples of BBs shattering PB mask plastic (their goggles are ANSI rated to at least the same spec as what's required for airsoft, so you don't have to worry about the goggles themselves shattering), or going through the little vents in certain PB mask types, but overall I'd trust them over a $25 Chinese mesh mask. (Not saying all mesh masks are crap though)

[Wolf427]

Originally Posted by FirestormX

Airsoft guns have the potential to propel BBs that travel with enough energy to shatter teeth, at least.
Your lips/cheeks do a bit to help, so keep your mouth shut, but they don't stop BBs.

If you get a lower face cover, go for something that's large, and goes over the ears, such as this:
http://www.khmountain.com/airsoft/pr...oducts_id=2371
As opposed to a small one, like this:
http://www.airsoftpark.com/strike-st...sk-p-3417.html
(I just google imaged those, so I'm not recommending you buy THAT EXACT ONE)
Those style masks are usually more comfortable, and have the added benefit of keeping BBs out of your ears.

The other big thing with the lower mask, is that it fits with your goggles. I bought a pair of goggles and face mask, and didn't even bother to try them on. I got home, and it turned out that the upper nose on the mask didn't fit into the nose area in the goggles.

With goggles, make sure it seals FULLY around the eye. If you get goggles that are too wide for your face, the strap might bend the goggles so they flex outwards at your nose, opening a gap at your nose allowing a BB to ricochet on up into your eye. This has happened to people (though it hasn't blinded anyone that I know of yet), and is pretty scary when it occurs. Wearing a helmet kind of helps keep your goggles seated nicely. If you plan to buy a helmet down the line, you should take that into consideration when you buy your goggles - large profile goggles will cause problems with your helmet (which sits low on your forehead) and mask alignment.

Paintball masks are simpler, because there's only a handful of companies that make popular ones, they're high quality, and well tested. Where as lower face masks can be complete crap, and not only let a BB right through, but explode little metal shards into your face (in a perfect storm type scenario). There's a lot of examples of BBs shattering PB mask plastic (their goggles are ANSI rated to at least the same spec as what's required for airsoft, so you don't have to worry about the goggles themselves shattering), or going through the little vents in certain PB mask types, but overall I'd trust them over a $25 Chinese mesh mask. (Not saying all mesh masks are crap though)

Wow. Alright I'll make sure I do lots of research and buy the correct mask, or goggle & mask combo.

[Antikythera]

My goggle set-up just for your research:


Revision Desert Locust
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Generic Lower Mesh Mask (Version 1) The model with the ear protection bugs me as it rubs up against your weapon more.