V3 firing issues.

[share_the_pain]

I recently got a CA G36 off the boards here, supposedly never fired before me (not doubting that at all). When I pull the trigger, the gearbox seems to work fine; I.e. the piston is pulled back and released normally, however BB's tend to not shoot most of the time. On full auto I will rarely get a BB coming out, and when I do it's for the first shot on a trigger pull. Semi seemed to shoot BB's more frequently, but not every shot and the next time I tried it, even fewer BB's were coming out (I.e. at first it seemed like every 1/5 shots a BB wouldn't come out, now only 1/5 shots a BB actually comes out).

The hop up is completely off, and on the occasion that a BB comes out, it seems to be shooting at the appropriate velocity (can't test this though).

Thanks.

[lemegacool]

check the tappet plate/ nozzle connection, when you remove the mag is there bb's falling (like 3 or 4)?

[kalnaren]

-What kind of magazine are you using in it?
-Is the magwell retainer nut there? (the nut the screws into the magwell retainer pin to hold it in place)

[share_the_pain]

Originally Posted by lemegacool

check the tappet plate/ nozzle connection, when you remove the mag is there bb's falling (like 3 or 4)?

Yes, there are 3-4 BB's that fall out when I remove the mag. For the record I'm using .25 Bastards.

Originally Posted by kalnaren

-What kind of magazine are you using in it?
-Is the magwell retainer nut there? (the nut the screws into the magwell retainer pin to hold it in place)

I'm using the standard CA G36 hicap that comes with the gun. If by magwell retainer nut, you mean the nut you have to unscrew to push the pin out of the magwell in order to remove it, then yes it is there.

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by share_the_pain

Yes, there are 3-4 BB's that fall out when I remove the mag. For the record I'm using .25 Bastards.


I'm using the standard CA G36 hicap that comes with the gun. If by magwell retainer nut, you mean the nut you have to unscrew to push the pin out of the magwell in order to remove it, then yes it is there.

You'll always lose 3-4 BB's, in almost every airsoft gun. That's normal.

Next i'd say take off the magwell and check the nozzle and hop-up alignment. Dry fire it and make sire the nozzle actually moves. If that's ok, then take off the barrel assembly and inspect the hop-up rubber itself to make sure it isn't damaged.

First though -and I only mention this because I've done it- are you sure you turned the hop-up adjust the correct way, so it is infact off and not fully on?

[Mitchell12]

May I add, while it seems dumb if you do know how to use a highcap some people don't.... so just make sure your winding it.

[lemegacool]

the falling bb'S was just to test if the mag was feeding correctly, as said make sure the nozzle operates correctly, if yes then its an alignment/rubber problem, from my experience if the hop up is all the way in the gun will just clog up and possibly strip a gear

[Mitchell12]

Originally Posted by lemegacool

the falling bb'S was just to test if the mag was feeding correctly, as said make sure the nozzle operates correctly, if yes then its an alignment/rubber problem, from my experience if the hop up is all the way in the gun will just clog up and possibly strip a gear

Right, so ofcourse he'd have to wind it thus knowing how to use the high-cap (doh).

[share_the_pain]

Originally Posted by kalnaren

First though -and I only mention this because I've done it- are you sure you turned the hop-up adjust the correct way, so it is infact off and not fully on?

I'm fairly sure I turned it the right way. I turned the dial downwards, which the manual says is the proper direction.

Originally Posted by kalnaren

Next i'd say take off the magwell and check the nozzle and hop-up alignment. Dry fire it and make sire the nozzle actually moves. If that's ok, then take off the barrel assembly and inspect the hop-up rubber itself to make sure it isn't damaged.

I'll check that first thing tomorrow morning. I don't want to have to fire the gun too much though because I fear breaking something.

And yes... I can wind a hicap.

Thanks for all the help so far guys, I'll update tomorrow once I check the nozzle.

[Mitchell12]

Originally Posted by share_the_pain

And yes... I can wind a hicap.

I actually answered a thread where that was the problem a while ago... It wasn't me thinking you were a noob :P

[share_the_pain]

Well I checked the nozzle, and it does indeed move. I'm not fully sure if it is moving correctly though. I was under the impression that after every shot, the nozzle should sit fully forward, however, when I shoot in semi the nozzle ends up part way back for about 90% of the shots, and only occasionally will go forward. Is this normal?

I also tried to look at the hop-up, but I don't have the right size screw drivers so I can't remove it.

[m102404]

The "random" nozzle position in both semi and full is completely normal. It's a factor of your spring strength, gear ratio, motor and battery.

Semi should be a bit more consistant in resting position vs. full...but it really doesn't matter.

Tys

[CDN_Stalker]

My guess is a lube issue, seems to always be the most common problem yet the one that totally gets overlooked. Get a few drops of sillicon oil into the loading nozzle and dry fire it a couple times, then run a couple mags worth of BBs through it. Should fix it.

[share_the_pain]

Originally Posted by m102404

The "random" nozzle position in both semi and full is completely normal. It's a factor of your spring strength, gear ratio, motor and battery.

Semi should be a bit more consistant in resting position vs. full...but it really doesn't matter.

Tys

Thanks, that clears it up.

I'll try some silicone oil next. This gun was apparently a wall hanger for a couple of years so it probably dried out a bit. Where exactly should I put lube on the nozzle (I.e. inside it, around it, etc)?

[share_the_pain]

Well I tried the silicone oil, and still doesn't shoot. I put some in the mag well hole and some on a cotton swab down the tube. So either lube isn't the problem or I didn't put enough in (which I'm pretty sure I did). Just in case I didn't mention this before, the gun now does not shoot any BBs at all (where as before it occasionally shot some). This happened before the oil so at least I didn't hurt it.

If there is anyone in the Barrie area that knows their way around AEGs fairly well (specifically the G36 series) that wouldn't mind meeting up with me and checking it out sometime this week, I'd greatly appreciate a PM.