Pantac/Phantom knock off?!

[rockafella]

So apparently there is an issue of knock-off's being made from a knock-off of the EAGLE branded CRIAS. So how can you tell if it's real (almost an oxymoron there)?

Does anyone have any specs on the PANTAC/Phantom CIRAS and the quality of the materials used?

read article here:
http://www.filairsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7027

[pugs144]

Phantom Changing Their Name to Pantac (2007-08-17)
We have an important news announcement from Phantom Industries, the makers of quality combat gear, that they will be changing their name. The statement, as seen below, mentions that the decision comes as a result of increasing numbers of low-quality fake Phantom products which have filtered its way through into the marketplace. To protect the reputation of the company, the Board of Directors decided to change the name and take all measures possible to protect their brand from being tainted by poor-quality imitations. Any further illegal reproduction of their branded products will result in prosecution......

Okay stop right there. So you have a knockoff-producing company complaining about knockoffs of their gear and threatening prosecution? I call 'bullshit'. Anyone else see the absurdity in this? Hello Pot, meet Kettle. They should be thankful Eagle Industries is letting them live.

[Farmboy]

That's the funniest shit I've heard in a long time. A knock-off company complaining about knock-offs.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Farmboy

That's the funniest shit I've heard in a long time. A knock-off company complaining about knock-offs.

I bet that long time is about 4 months. yeah it was funny then and it is funny now.

[TrueTGN]

I just think they were pissed cause they tried passing the knock offs of the knock offs under phantoms name. That'd be like some company making fake Eagle brand stuff and passing it off as if it was actually made by Eagle.

[rockafella]

Originally Posted by pugs144

a knockoff-producing company complaining about knockoffs of their gear and threatening prosecution?

I know, i thought this was pretty funny too.

[Kos-Mos]

Old new...

check the date... August of this years.... almost 5 months...c'mon
If you want the best thing, just buy a real Eagle CIRAS... otherwise, get a knock-off...

I really doubt that for AS purpose it really is worth it spending 1000$ on gear...

[ThunderCactus]

Everyone I know who uses the phantom CIRAS loves it, Pantac is the exact same thing under a different name. Like G&P and WGC custom guns lol

[rockafella]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

Everyone I know who uses the phantom CIRAS loves it, Pantac is the exact same thing under a different name. Like G&P and WGC custom guns lol

Do you know any threads or discussions where they do a comparison between the real deal and the Phantom/Pantac versions?

Also, do you guys know where i can find specs on the Pantac/Pahntom CIRAS?

[Groombug]

Originally Posted by rockafella

Do you know any threads or discussions where they do a comparison between the real deal and the Phantom/Pantac versions?

For the last goddamn time, Eagle is far and above Phantom. One is a copy of the other. Combat Integrated Releasable Armor System (CIRAS) is an Eagle creation. There is only one true CIRAS, and it's made by Eagle. All other "CIRAS" are copies thereof.

One is made by shifty Asian workers in a dingy factory somewhere in the PRC or Taiwanese interior, who don't give a shit what stitch goes where, while the other is made by workers who know that if the difference between missing a bartack and doubling one up may be life and death for a combat soldier.

One is a product of hundreds of thousands of dollars of R&D and extensive field-testing and user evaluation, each part of the unit is a certain way because of these inputs, while the other is a reverse-engineered emulation of the former.

If you want to play airsoft with it, Phantom is enough. It is specifically copied and marketed for airsofters and cosplayers.

If you want to 'Stan it, buy Eagle to avoid your premature ramp ceremony as much as possible. It is designed to survive combat situations and make lifesaving access (or ditching) a split-second process.

[rockafella]

Originally Posted by Groombug

If you want to play airsoft with it, Phantom is enough. It is specifically copied and marketed for airsofters and cosplayers.

If you want to 'Stan it, buy Eagle It is designed to survive combat situations and make lifesaving access (or ditching) a split-second process.

...nuff said

[pOkiE]

You definitely get what you pay for man...While the Phantom/Pantac CIRAS is decent for a replica, it is nowhere near the quality of Eagle. You can see the different just by the materials that they use. Ask anyone who uses real steel gear...theyll probably tell you that that the Cordura used in Phantom gear seems to be 700Denier which is used alot less. That alone is an indicator of the difference in quality. BUT for 1/3 - 1/4 the price...you really cant go wrong when it comes to airsoft. Everyone wishes they could afford and use real steel gear but the fact of the matter is that replicas are sufficient for what they are being used for and dont break the bank like the real stuff.