ares m4 compatible mechboxes

[hobotoejoe]

recently went out gaming.ended up lending my rifle to a friend, he ended up jamming my rifle up, and stripping the gears on it. *face palm*. i was first just going to rebuild the entire mech box. after a long consideration and skipping a ton of work, i just ended up buying a m4 s-systema gear box off a friend who swore up and down it would just "slide right in". 2 hours later i gave up returned and gave him the gear box back. i was just wondering what kinda mech boxes would work for my gun. if anybody could help me out i would be forever grateful. i have heard a vfc m4 gearbox is roughly the same. but i am unsure, and would rather take advice from people that know what they are talking about

[Kos-Mos]

Simple answer: ARES

Just change the gears.

[hobotoejoe]

yeah? it would be a lot better of a route, or is it just the ares platform that is the ford of airsoft and have stupid designs?

[Kos-Mos]

It's actually a great design, especially since the Version 2 mechbox came out in the early 90s...

BUT getting replacement parts is a pain...
As long as you don't break something proprietary, you are fine.

Now, you only need a set of shims and some new gears... not that bad really.

[iKliiu]

The ACM quick spring change gearboxes are direct clones of ARES, such as this one http://www.rsov.com/product.php?lang...997&cateId=142

However, changing the gears would be a much simpler solution.

[hobotoejoe]

thanks a bunch everybody, one more question thought. could i just use the gears out of the systema mechbox i gave back to the guy. i got it cheaply and he hasnt paid me back for it. just grab some white lithium grease, and swap them over. or is it easier said than done?

[Kos-Mos]

If you change the gears, even with the same brand and model, you have to redo the shims.

A decent gearset is about 30$. Your mechbox better be cheaper. Then again you can probably resell the whole thing a lot easier and buy better gears.

[iKliiu]

Systema gears aren't that good. If you want good and cheap gears, just find some stock JG gears. The only cost around $10. For around $30, go for SHS/Core/AF. For $50, go for Lonex. And if you want to spend $100, get Siegeteks/Riots.

[hobotoejoe]

Okay. So I changed all internals on the gun put it back together and still a no fire! I have been tinkering with it for the last little while. Everything "looks" fine. I am guessing I have missed a small thing. When pulling the trigger it clicks. And after a couple pulls I can feel the wires getting hot, and a small smell of something burning. Seems to be comin from the motor area! HELP!! Haha

[lurkingknight]

reversed the motor wires?

[hobotoejoe]

On my motor it has a positive symbol. And I am pretty sure red is positive haha. Well last Time I checked haha. So I don't think that would be the problem. I must have forgotten a part or something is in backwards. Does anybody have a picture of a area mech box from a couple different angels? That way I can get a better grasp on where everything goes.

[hobotoejoe]

Thanks again for all your input on the thread people. Its finally firing and working properly. It ended up being the piston teeth that got shredded. But I changed out pretty much everything except the piece that went in was the reason it was not firing. haha. The reason it wouldn't fire Is the anti-reversal latch was put in the wrong way. Whoops!!