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Old June 27th, 2011, 22:43   #91
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ok let get this straight.. when in semi mode, the SP touching the 2 prong springs but not engaging the cut-out lever? In full auto the SP is touching the all the 3 prong springs & engaging the cut-out lever?

I dont have a spare SP right now, just afraid I might end up cutting cutting a little bit too much... as now, as suggested it may look like i may need to cut extra 2mm away on top of the original 5mm cut...

what a headache....
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Old June 27th, 2011, 22:54   #92
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I've found from experience that if the cutoff lever is not engaging and disengaging properly, the gun won't fire and you'll get the double beep and everything will stop working. Install the cutoff lever and the sector gear with the ASCU micro switch. Turn the sector gear until the cutoff lever engages. See how much the ASCU lever moves up, and if it doesn't go as high as it can, bend the cutoff lever until it does. You might have to file the end of the cutoff lever a bit for it to function and fit. Keep doing this until the ascu lever can move almost to the end of it's travel. Be sure that it also can go back to rest without the ascu lever engaged.
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Old June 27th, 2011, 23:00   #93
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has any one cut their selector plate much more than 5mm off??
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Old June 27th, 2011, 23:15   #94
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to know if you've cut enough, move the selector plate all the way to the right and see if it touches the cutoff lever. If it doesn't touch, you're good. Take some off if it does.
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Old June 27th, 2011, 23:30   #95
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to know if you've cut enough, move the selector plate all the way to the right and see if it touches the cutoff lever. If it doesn't touch, you're good. Take some off if it does.

haha sory if this sounded stupid.. you mean move the SP all the way to the right is at semi or full auto mode? you're saying in semi mode it does not touch the cutout lever at all right?
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Old June 27th, 2011, 23:33   #96
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Yes, move it over to the "full auto" section or as far as it will go that way, if the part that use to retain the spring doesn't touch the cutoff lever, you're good. File a bit if it does.

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haha sory if this sounded stupid.. you mean move the SP all the way to the right is at semi or full auto mode? you're saying in semi mode it does not touch the cutout lever at all right?
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Old June 27th, 2011, 23:34   #97
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If I remember correct I had to remove more than specified, as far as there is a contact between the CO lever and the SP, it will double beep 95% of the time. Don't be afraid of cutting a little bit more, as it doesn't work anyway. If you end up breaking the SP, then at least you would've tried !
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Old June 28th, 2011, 00:14   #98
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ok, it means that SP is not to have any contact whatsoever with the cutout lever in any time yea?

sorry if this still sounds stupdi.. just can get to understand the concept of the ASCU
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Old June 28th, 2011, 08:07   #99
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Yes. It's not suppose to contact the cutoff lever at all. Trim more left to right vs up and down to retain strength in the selector plate.

Also, take the spring out and cycle the gears with the selector plate in semi and auto to make sure it cycles properly and completely.
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Old June 28th, 2011, 11:37   #100
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[QUOTE=coachster;1491880]Yes. It's not suppose to contact the cutoff lever at all. Trim more left to right vs up and down to retain strength in the selector plate.

Also, take the spring out and cycle the gears with the selector plate in semi and auto to make sure it cycles properly and completely.[/QUO


My good... All this while more than 1 year it's just coz it's needed few more mm to cut... The people at info@airsoftsystems.com wasn't any help on my problem.... Thanks for the info guys...
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Old June 28th, 2011, 20:28   #101
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I think I remember something that I had to rebend the auto tab on the switch, but it's so far in my mind I can't be sure...
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Old June 29th, 2011, 11:31   #102
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Now problem still arrive... I cut the sp enuf not to engage the cutout lever, try shooting in semi mode but there are no single shots... Sp was touching 2 prong springs. All fired in 3 bursts.. After about 5-7 pull it just double beep & stops..

When in full auto the gun just cycle once than stop... Sp was touching all 3 prongs & not engaging cutout lever...

Still can't determine whats wrong...
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Old July 6th, 2011, 00:31   #103
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1 quick question: does the cutoff lever engage from the sector gear does a big movement on the ascu sensor arm? i mean does the sensor arm move all the way to the highest point or the cutoff lever should just engage half of the sensor arm?? & what does it means when one should get a better cutoff lever?

my m4 still not shoting any semi in semi mode.... & no full auto, just 3 burst in semi mode... i've done all the nessecery adjustment on the new Guarder selector plate, but no luck...
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Old July 6th, 2011, 15:06   #104
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According to the manufacturer, here are the dimension:
L = 5.2 mm
W = 2.0 mm
H = 1.2 mm
If anyone's interested.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 11:05   #105
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I just installed one of these new ones on an m4. Had to replace the cut off lever but after that it will cycle in semi fine but on auto it only cycles once as if it's still on semi. Any ideas?
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