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Old February 14th, 2008, 21:00   #31
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...and beyond me if I can understand why.
Dude! It's teh 733tness lolzors!!!1!!!1!!one!1
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Old February 14th, 2008, 21:01   #32
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Pictures don't show silhouette, sound, shape, shine, texture etc. All the camouflage in the world wont do a damn bit of good if you're silhoetted.

Point is, and you've already said as much, that Multicam really isn't any better than anything else. Like any other system, it's only as good as the person wearing it and the environment it's worn in. Unfortunately, it's become the airsoft-standard uniform, and beyond me if I can understand why.
True enough to a point, the best cases I've seen are those two pics, unaltered like the Crye website has (but both ot those pics say a thousand words regardless), but it's growing as a standard in the US among the AR shooters club as well. Can't pick up an issue of SWAT, Tactical Gear, etc. without seeing multicam everywhere in it (check out the Grail AR-15 in its fancy MC skin), instructors of renowned gun courses, etc. Seems maybe those (like you) who own ARs, and airsofters go hand in hand when it comes to multicam (admit it, even though you hate it, you still own an expensive set of multicam BDUs).

I'm above and beyond most airsofters when it comes to camo (not enough to grow an ego over though), how to use it, pros & cons of different patterns, etc, and even after a couple dozen games wearing mutlicam, I can honestly say it's a hit or miss thing. Cadpat is retarded easy to learn to use, head for shadows and cedar trees and you are laughing..... elsewhere (including at night, it's a dark silhoutte, something multicam doesn't do unless being viewed through IR goggles/scope, and only then it's because of the IFF treatment the real material has), but I seriously feel venerable when wearing multicam because I am still trying to learn to see like another would when I position myself, and it is honestly fucking hard to know when you are missing, and when you are right there. I'd love to meet someone who has mastered how to use multicam to it's full advantage in changing environments, such as playing at the average field for an airsoft game. But those are literally few and far between, unless out in Alberta or something with more beige in their environment than anything else.
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Old February 14th, 2008, 21:04   #33
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Dude! It's teh 733tness lolzors!!!1!!!1!!one!1
ACU usage is worse than mutlicam, and stands out 80% more. And yes, we all know you have an NVG scope, so stop pointing out that MC is flawed slimply because it has IFF treatment. And then admit you want MC as well, as you have previously.

Next time I see you in ACU, I got dibs on the news section, to keep up with politics.
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Old February 14th, 2008, 21:52   #34
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What is my Admin pouch for if I cant put any damn patches on it?



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Old February 14th, 2008, 22:57   #35
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Pictures don't show silhouette, sound, shape, shine, texture etc. All the camouflage in the world wont do a damn bit of good if you're silhoetted.

Point is, and you've already said as much, that Multicam really isn't any better than anything else. Like any other system, it's only as good as the person wearing it and the environment it's worn in. Unfortunately, it's become the airsoft-standard uniform, and beyond me if I can understand why.
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True enough to a point, the best cases I've seen are those two pics......
...... how to use it, pros & cons of different patterns, etc, and even after a couple dozen games wearing mutlicam, I can honestly say it's a hit or miss thing. Cadpat is retarded easy to learn to use, head for shadows and cedar trees and you are laughing..... elsewhere (including at night, it's a dark silhoutte, something multicam doesn't do ......
SHHHHHHH....
...don't be giving away too many trick of the trade on open forums!! LOL

Unfortunatly, I am also a victim of multi cam. I've been in the sport almost 14 years now and have never purchased (or really need a vest), but I got a wicked deal on a couple of CIRAS vests (complete with all pouches), and for the price I figured I can't go wrong. LOL guess I'm in with the "trendy" group now.
.....though I suspect that the MULTICAM will make an excellent base to build a ghillie on.

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Old February 14th, 2008, 23:02   #36
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I've worn my mutlicam exposed under my ghillie and survived, am sure others would too.

BTW, my gear is either khaki or OD, only gear I have that is MC is my drop leg for my MK23.
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Old February 14th, 2008, 23:22   #37
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Old February 15th, 2008, 05:15   #38
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Old February 15th, 2008, 18:03   #39
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And yes, we all know you have an NVG scope, so stop pointing out that MC is flawed slimply because it has IFF treatment. And then admit you want MC as well, as you have previously.

Next time I see you in ACU, I got dibs on the news section, to keep up with politics.
That's the problem with MC, it's the IFF treatment that is flawed. That treatment is supposed to make you more difficult to see through NV, all my issued stuff has it as well, and it works damned peachy. All the MC I've seen with it lights up like a Christmas tree, which is what the coating is supposed to prevent.
And you won't see me in ACU anytime soon. I ditched it all, except for a couple pairs of cool cutoff shorts . Don't know why I bothered in the first place. Cadpat's free.
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Old February 15th, 2008, 18:54   #40
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That's the problem with MC, it's the IFF treatment that is flawed. That treatment is supposed to make you more difficult to see through NV, all my issued stuff has it as well, and it works damned peachy. All the MC I've seen with it lights up like a Christmas tree, which is what the coating is supposed to prevent.
And you won't see me in ACU anytime soon. I ditched it all, except for a couple pairs of cool cutoff shorts . Don't know why I bothered in the first place. Cadpat's free.
You look better in cadpat anyways. Lol, makes you look slimmer. Besides, 'it's better to look like a tree than to look like an American'. (Old joke I assume you've heard.)

I thought IFF was supposed to light up with NVGs, hence the Identification Friend/Foe. I mean, the panels on vehicles and shoulder patches glow only in NVG, but isn't that the whole IFF thing anyways?
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Old February 15th, 2008, 19:27   #41
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I thought IFF was supposed to light up with NVGs, hence the Identification Friend/Foe. I mean, the panels on vehicles and shoulder patches glow only in NVG, but isn't that the whole IFF thing anyways?
No, it's meant to supress your IR signature. Friendlies aren't the only ones with NV these days. IR recognition comes from those little velcro tab thingies.
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Old February 15th, 2008, 20:16   #43
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My camo doesnt really give me away to often. I find that the biggest thing that gives away my position in games is when I pass gas. Its never silent, as hard as I try to squeak it out silently, it always turns out to be one of those blowing a tuba through a megaphone farts.
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Old February 15th, 2008, 20:33   #44
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My camo doesnt really give me away to often. I find that the biggest thing that gives away my position in games is when I pass gas. Its never silent, as hard as I try to squeak it out silently, it always turns out to be one of those blowing a tuba through a megaphone farts.
My fiance sounds like a ship coming to harbour too, you guys should hook up
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Old February 15th, 2008, 20:38   #45
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Polish Grom are using something pretty close to Multicam these days...

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