Smoke grenades. DYI

Forever_kaos · August 24th, 2007, 03:44

I know there is a fuse involved with this but I'm not sure it's considerd an explosive... nothing goes kablam, it doesn't shoot sparks (unless you count the fuse) Anyways..
does this thing smell once set off? ... how about a neon green smoke screen?

Drache · August 24th, 2007, 12:24

I never said it was an explosive, but it's classified as illegal to make under the same terms as an explosive.

Greylocks · August 24th, 2007, 12:31

The thing authorities care about is 1) manufacture and 2) use. Manufacturing is illegal unless you have the right permits. Use of anything that produces ANY heat in an outdoors environment (forests, fields where airsoft is played) falls under a whole slew of Federal, Provincial, Municipal and other Bylaws that bite big time.
So the question to ask yourself is simple; do you have about $100,000.00 to waste? (Adding up the costs of the fire trucks and other things they can throw at you).

Properly made smoke grenades can be used in some cases, but there's a LOT to think about and prepare for before that happens. The problem is that not enough people think first.

oicurpn · August 24th, 2007, 12:58

this is very true not to many people think before they experiments. I have my fireworks licence and these would fall under a class C firework anyone under the age of 16 would need parental consent to buy and adult would have to be present. As for making your own it is not illegal but the same rule applys just like anything else there has to be accountability for your actions ( if you start a fire its your fault )

jaa · August 24th, 2007, 17:43

Aren't smoke bombs sold along side other fireworks for holidays? In that case, why are they illegal to set off?

SOBrite · August 24th, 2007, 18:05

If I had a doller for everytime I heard of or saw a "homemade pyro" fail in the hands of it's maker... well I would only have like... 7 bucks! And that's not enough for a new hand, finger, eye, arm... I think you guys get the picture.
Not to mention the trouble you'll find yourself in for making a homemade explosive/pyro device.

Forever_kaos · August 24th, 2007, 18:06

That makes sense.. if people are setting off fireworks (on specific days) and some can make alot of smoke, or if you set off alot it can make alot of smoke..

FOX_111 · August 24th, 2007, 18:55

Someone made some and light them in one of our game. It was in a metal fruit cup container. It was so hot, the metal melted. I'd definatly forbid them for field and indoor use unless it's a sand pit.

jaa · August 25th, 2007, 22:29

http://kaboomfireworks.com/noname7.html

jaa · August 25th, 2007, 22:29

I'm certain these are legal

Greylocks · August 25th, 2007, 22:54

And I'm certain you have not checked the laws about WHERE they can be used.

FOX_111 · August 25th, 2007, 23:11

We use them already. The smoke is not bad, but not thick enough for effective masking.

Ronan · August 25th, 2007, 23:29

So when those smoke bombs are allowed durring games... how does that work?

Also has it ever happen: Owner says 'yeah u can use them for this game'. And players get in trouble when the fire trucks start rolling down the field...

Edit: Fuck i can't spell tonight....

Gryphon · August 26th, 2007, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by oicurpn

this is very true not to many people think before they experiments. I have my fireworks licence and these would fall under a class C firework anyone under the age of 16 would need parental consent to buy and adult would have to be present. As for making your own it is not illegal but the same rule applys just like anything else there has to be accountability for your actions ( if you start a fire its your fault )

Completely wrong information for Canada. We don't even classify fireworks as A, B, or C here. Possibly true for the States only.

The Kaboom Fireworks smokes are legal, but as Fox said, not very good. The marine distress smokes still seem to be the best bang for the buck, the trouble now is finding any. I believe our supplier has around 50 or so in stock which is insufficient for us to ship in and then redistribute due to logistics.

tony123 · August 27th, 2007, 03:51

Ok so robotics and rc stuff is one of my hobbies and i was browsing google and i came across these. http://www.hobby-lobby.com/atricks.htm (smoke trails) It said that it puts out thick smoke for 4 minites or so and there cheaper than the actual smoke bombs. Would they work?

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August 24th, 2007, 17:43	#20
jaa Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto	Aren't smoke bombs sold along side other fireworks for holidays? In that case, why are they illegal to set off? __________________ I believe in ordinance overkill We're gonna need more BBS

August 24th, 2007, 18:05	#21
SOBrite Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto	If I had a doller for everytime I heard of or saw a "homemade pyro" fail in the hands of it's maker... well I would only have like... 7 bucks! And that's not enough for a new hand, finger, eye, arm... I think you guys get the picture. Not to mention the trouble you'll find yourself in for making a homemade explosive/pyro device. __________________ SOBritelighting.com

August 24th, 2007, 18:55	#23
FOX_111 Le Roi des poissons d'avril Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Terrebonne, Québec	Someone made some and light them in one of our game. It was in a metal fruit cup container. It was so hot, the metal melted. I'd definatly forbid them for field and indoor use unless it's a sand pit. __________________ Vérificateur d'âge: Terrebonne

August 24th, 2007, 03:44	#16
Forever_kaos Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mississauga.	I know there is a fuse involved with this but I'm not sure it's considerd an explosive... nothing goes kablam, it doesn't shoot sparks (unless you count the fuse) Anyways.. does this thing smell once set off? ... how about a neon green smoke screen?

August 24th, 2007, 12:24	#17
Drache BALLET, TYPE: SELF LOATHING, ANALBURST Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005	I never said it was an explosive, but it's classified as illegal to make under the same terms as an explosive.

August 24th, 2007, 12:31	#18
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	The thing authorities care about is 1) manufacture and 2) use. Manufacturing is illegal unless you have the right permits. Use of anything that produces ANY heat in an outdoors environment (forests, fields where airsoft is played) falls under a whole slew of Federal, Provincial, Municipal and other Bylaws that bite big time. So the question to ask yourself is simple; do you have about $100,000.00 to waste? (Adding up the costs of the fire trucks and other things they can throw at you). Properly made smoke grenades can be used in some cases, but there's a LOT to think about and prepare for before that happens. The problem is that not enough people think first.

August 24th, 2007, 12:58	#19
oicurpn Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2007	this is very true not to many people think before they experiments. I have my fireworks licence and these would fall under a class C firework anyone under the age of 16 would need parental consent to buy and adult would have to be present. As for making your own it is not illegal but the same rule applys just like anything else there has to be accountability for your actions ( if you start a fire its your fault )

August 24th, 2007, 18:06	#22
Forever_kaos Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mississauga.	That makes sense.. if people are setting off fireworks (on specific days) and some can make alot of smoke, or if you set off alot it can make alot of smoke..

August 25th, 2007, 22:29	#24
jaa Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto	http://kaboomfireworks.com/noname7.html __________________ I believe in ordinance overkill We're gonna need more BBS

August 25th, 2007, 22:29	#25
jaa Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto	I'm certain these are legal __________________ I believe in ordinance overkill We're gonna need more BBS

August 25th, 2007, 22:54	#26
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	And I'm certain you have not checked the laws about WHERE they can be used.

August 25th, 2007, 23:11	#27
FOX_111 Le Roi des poissons d'avril Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Terrebonne, Québec	We use them already. The smoke is not bad, but not thick enough for effective masking. __________________ Vérificateur d'âge: Terrebonne

August 27th, 2007, 03:51	#30
tony123 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brandon MB	Ok so robotics and rc stuff is one of my hobbies and i was browsing google and i came across these. http://www.hobby-lobby.com/atricks.htm (smoke trails) It said that it puts out thick smoke for 4 minites or so and there cheaper than the actual smoke bombs. Would they work?

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