Running all your gear on your belt?

[Jimski]

Originally Posted by Hectic

wow jimski two mags thats it? Or are more hidden in the gp pouch?

no these are not my kit these are from the internets
on my belt I usually use 10 mags

[Hectic]

that makes more sense lol.
and to the OP a "chest rig" actually keeps most of the gear around yer mid section/stomach area.

[Drakker]

Well, Jimski beat me to it, but I took the time to dust off my belt and take a picture, so here it is.



From left to right: double pistol mag pouch, double M16 mag pouch, pistol holster, radio pouch with 1x pistol mag pouch and shotgun shells holder, large accessory pouch (usually for mission objectives, shown with mags here), dump pouch, molle accessory pouch that fits a canteen with a double pistol mag pouch attached to it and a double M16 mags pouch.

The belt with full load is rather heavy, but it helps to keep your center of gravity low. This kind of setup leaves all your BDU pockets empty and you can access all of them. If you have an ACU cut BDU, the arms, legs and chest pockets hold mags quite nicely. If you play in a real mag capacity game and you need to carry 8-10 of them, they fit nicely in there. Having access to the pockets on your chest is also nice to carry maps, rules, objectives or other paperwork.

This setup is especially nice in hot summer days, as there is nothing pushing your BDU close to your body to keep the sweat in.

[Brian McIlmoyle]

Originally Posted by Hectic

that makes more sense lol.
and to the OP a "chest rig" actually keeps most of the gear around yer mid section/stomach area.

Chest rig should be worn high enough to not interfere with abdominal flexibility, bottom of the rig should be no lower than your lowest rib. most people wear them too low... in fact most people wear most of their gear too low.

[Hectic]

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle

Chest rig should be worn high enough to not interfere with abdominal flexibility, bottom of the rig should be no lower than your lowest rib. most people wear them too low... in fact most people wear most of their gear too low.

ya i have that issue a bit problem being im too damn short and skinny lol (5ft6-5ft7 and 135lb) i even orderd from china hopin it would be a smaller cut but even with the damin pannel at my coller bones the bottom of the rig is close to my waist, so close in fact i gotta run the belt behind the rit rather then below
doesnt really obstruct my twisting and bending cause even snugged up its still "roomy"
thats why ima grab some 82 gear i think itll work beter on my small frame and still give me almost the same ammonunt of room for stuff if i organize it well and piggy back some pouches.

[Brian McIlmoyle]

Originally Posted by Hectic

ya i have that issue a bit problem being im too damn short and skinny lol (5ft6-5ft7 and 135lb) i even orderd from china hopin it would be a smaller cut but even with the damin pannel at my coller bones the bottom of the rig is close to my waist, so close in fact i gotta run the belt behind the rit rather then below
doesnt really obstruct my twisting and bending cause even snugged up its still "roomy"
thats why ima grab some 82 gear i think itll work beter on my small frame and still give me almost the same ammonunt of room for stuff if i organize it well and piggy back some pouches.

Maxpedition and HSGI make a very small low profile chest rig that can fit small frame humans.

[Stealth]

Originally Posted by mzo

Do you have any experience and/or opinions regarding the Condor Gen2 Battle Belt?

I am considering purchasing one (with matching H-Harness) to use outdoors during the summer... I like to limit what I carry on my back as much as possible.

Another option that I'm considering is the Pantac LBE.

Teammate had it. I tried it, but really, after using the HSGI you can't go back to anythign else. The HSGI has this really supple, gel-like anti-slip neoprene padding that's simply sublime and prevents your belt from rotating.

Got my HSGI belt direct from HSGI. I got lucky and snagged one of their "blem" belts for like $40. I inspected it for a good 20 minutes and couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. *Shrug*

[M.Garcia]

Shellback Tactical Banshee.

Best plate carrier for small dudes. I'm same dimensions as you hectic and it fits like a glove. An asian friend of mine who is a bit smaller wears it as well. It also has the flexibility to fit BIG dudes too.

[mzo]

Originally Posted by Stealth

Teammate had it. I tried it, but really, after using the HSGI you can't go back to anythign else. The HSGI has this really supple, gel-like anti-slip neoprene padding that's simply sublime and prevents your belt from rotating.

Got my HSGI belt direct from HSGI. I got lucky and snagged one of their "blem" belts for like $40. I inspected it for a good 20 minutes and couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. *Shrug*

Thanks for the info Stealth, I going to check their web site now...

[m102404]

The only downside that I've felt is the weight...if you run suspenders that goes a long way to helping.

It's really nice to drop your 3rd/2nd line stuff if the situation warrants it, especially when it's hot...without being totally without stuff. i.e. long games, down time, etc...

At some of the longer games (24-30hrs things) it's handy to run just your first line all the time, then "gear up" for assaults/etc...

[Hectic]

thanks Brian.
m.garcia im not big on plate carriers but if i ever need or want one now i know where to start thank you as well

[Renegade)]

The best advice has been given, I will re-say it, the best way to figure out what works for you gear wise, is go play!

I went from running just a couple of small pouches on a BDU pants belt, to a full battle belt, chest rig combo.

I am slowly graduating more onto my belt, so that for longer games, I can take off the chest rig and be battle-ready with just the belt.

My advice is, keep it simple, keep it light, but keep it to what you actually use, not what you think you will use.
Mine now consists of 2 M4 Mag Taco pouches, 2 double pistol mag pouches (4 1911 mags) dump pouch, canteen, small utility pouch, kill rag pouch, and a holster for my sidearm. Even with just this, I find it gets a bit heavy, need to keep it tight, and use suspenders with it for long term wear.
This allows me to be ready to respond if needed, but I can easily just toss my chest rig on for a battle.

For a skirmish or indoor game, I dont even bother with the chestrig, I add a couple more mag pouches for M4 mags, even just run a bandoleer or carry some in your pockets.

Running just a belt is feasible for the right situation.

But again, go out and play, that is the best and really only feasible way to find out what works for you 4 years since I got all of this loadout, and I am still always changing things around or adding/subtracting.

[Brian McIlmoyle]

As time goes by you will adapt your loadout to the activities you are doing.

for a 24 hour gig I will have a belt rig for basic load , this will work for a Short patrol as well, I can pull on a chest rig that will give me sustainment for an assault or in defense for a protracted fight. .. then a small pack if I am going to be out for several hours doing a few different things .

sometimes I just put on a smock and load up the pockets .. this is ideal for night recce, slick profile, and silent.

there is no 1 size fits all loadout, you have to adapt the tools to the job

[TheHappy1]

I use the right angle belt from Flyye as my only way to carry my stuff around. I use 4 universal mag pouch and a grenade pouch on one of them, I have a radio pouch, a dump pouch, a holster and a double ak mag pouch for 6 other mags. Here are some pictures of my belt.

[lurkingknight]

I have the condor battle belt and h harness... Get the condor belt and if you don't want anything on your back, the pantac suspenders.. or rig your own. I didn't have issues with it going anywhere, but just in case it droops or if you have a flat ass.

The pantac suspenders are lower profile, so the nice thing is you can layer something on top of it, like tiny plate carrier or chest rig without the suspenders being in the way. you can't really do that with the condor h harness since the shoulder straps are more plate carrier or backpack-like and there is a molle panel on the back for a water carrier. With the pantac suspenders on longer games, you can haul more gear out onto the field, and just dump what's on top at you CP and go light weight to run around.