WE 1911 - not releasing gas

jerryliang2k · October 14th, 2007, 19:52

Just got this new from boarder wars. Shot it off a few times right after I got it to test it out; put it in my holster and ran around for a few hours. After a while I got tired of my drop leg holster and returned it to my car. The gun was ever so slightly dirty.

I got home to test the gun again. Cock the hammer, pull the trigger, nothing happens. I referred to the user manual which claims the magazine may contain too much gas/pressure for the hammer to depress. Released some gas, still nothing.

I removed the slide, clocked the hammer and fired. Poooffffffffffffffffft. The gas expelled. Hmm... strange.

I located the part inside the mag well which the hammer actually hits, the 'firing pin' if you will. I noticed that if I pushed it till it was flush with the inside of the mag well, the gun will fire (with the slide on or off)... but only for a few shots. Furthermore, the gun seems to fire 90% of the time with the slide off and about 5% of the time with the slide on.

This is a pretty random problem. I can't personally find any logic behind it. Will a stronger hammer spring fix this?

Zi-Xiao

P.S.
I have this problem with multiple mags so it must be a problem with the gun.

The Saint · October 14th, 2007, 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryliang2k

I located the part inside the mag well which the hammer actually hits, the 'firing pin' if you will. I noticed that if I pushed it till it was flush with the inside of the mag well, the gun will fire (with the slide on or off)... but only for a few shots.

Are you actually having to manually push the internal hammer all the way back till it was flush? Because the internal hammer should be spring-loaded and reset with the slightest amount of push.

jerryliang2k · October 14th, 2007, 23:26

I don't have to push hard... however, the gas release valve doesn't push it in all the way. Should it? If so, what could the problem be?

The Saint · October 14th, 2007, 23:39

The release valve should only go as far as it takes for that little C-clip to be roughly flush with the valve body.

Try taking the sear mechanism apart and reassembling it. If you're not familiar with the WE1911 insides, here's a guide: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forum...pic=93398&st=0

Renegade) · October 14th, 2007, 23:48

Very glad I was one of the 2 that got a TM 1911... did you put those 2 precious drops of oil before ur first mag fill to lube up everything? Could be the pin needs some oil as well, remove the slide, drop some in, then work the trigger for 15-20 racks, then try.

jerryliang2k · October 15th, 2007, 10:16

For some wacky reason the gun seems to work without any problems...... The airsoft gods have a sense of humor i guess. Thanks for the help regardless everyone, especially to Saint for finding that link

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@ Renegade, can your 1911 empty a whole mag on one charge of gas? The reason I've been avoiding the TM 1911s like the plague is due to many reports of it having too small a gas resivoir.

Renegade) · October 15th, 2007, 11:04

I havnt tried a full mag yet, but I have fired quite a few shots then reload on just the one fill. I will try a full one today and let you know man.

bikergeo · October 15th, 2007, 16:07

I have the TM 1911 and i can fire the hole mag off with one fill of gas and theres still gas left in the mag.

Renegade) · October 15th, 2007, 16:15

Just fired off entire mag full, and then some, still got some left for storage.

leecas · October 15th, 2007, 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikergeo

I have the TM 1911 and i can fire the hole mag off with one fill of gas and theres still gas left in the mag.

I have a TM as well and I can get a full mag and more.

Colin_S · October 15th, 2007, 16:45

Sigh I love my TM 1911 but I can't get a full mag out of BBs out of it, maybe 20-22 if I'm lucky.

Happens with all 5 of my TM 1911 mags, dunno why even stock it was like that.

jerryliang2k · October 15th, 2007, 17:53

The Good - My WE gets around 1.5 - 2 mags of BBs off.
The Bad - No Trades
The Ugly - Orange tip :'(

Anyone know if TM slides/barrels are compatible with WE? I want to swap out the slide and barrel.

Renegade) · October 15th, 2007, 17:54

hah, my orange tip on my TM is already gone

light sanded it off, and gonna touch it up with some paint later just for looks. I plan to go metal kit sometime over the winter.

jerryliang2k · October 15th, 2007, 17:58

My orange tip isn't painted on. It's actually a little cylinder glued on to the end of the barrel. The barrel is kinda ugly anyways.

So ya, anyone know about the compatibility issues?

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October 14th, 2007, 19:52	#1
jerryliang2k Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississauga, ON	WE 1911 - not releasing gas Just got this new from boarder wars. Shot it off a few times right after I got it to test it out; put it in my holster and ran around for a few hours. After a while I got tired of my drop leg holster and returned it to my car. The gun was ever so slightly dirty. I got home to test the gun again. Cock the hammer, pull the trigger, nothing happens. I referred to the user manual which claims the magazine may contain too much gas/pressure for the hammer to depress. Released some gas, still nothing. I removed the slide, clocked the hammer and fired. Poooffffffffffffffffft. The gas expelled. Hmm... strange. I located the part inside the mag well which the hammer actually hits, the 'firing pin' if you will. I noticed that if I pushed it till it was flush with the inside of the mag well, the gun will fire (with the slide on or off)... but only for a few shots. Furthermore, the gun seems to fire 90% of the time with the slide off and about 5% of the time with the slide on. This is a pretty random problem. I can't personally find any logic behind it. Will a stronger hammer spring fix this? Zi-Xiao P.S. I have this problem with multiple mags so it must be a problem with the gun. __________________ Primary - CA M249 - Systema PTW Sidearms - KWA G18c - WE 1911

October 14th, 2007, 23:26	#3
jerryliang2k Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississauga, ON	I don't have to push hard... however, the gas release valve doesn't push it in all the way. Should it? If so, what could the problem be? __________________ Primary - CA M249 - Systema PTW Sidearms - KWA G18c - WE 1911

October 14th, 2007, 23:39	#4
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	The release valve should only go as far as it takes for that little C-clip to be roughly flush with the valve body. Try taking the sear mechanism apart and reassembling it. If you're not familiar with the WE1911 insides, here's a guide: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forum...pic=93398&st=0 __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

October 14th, 2007, 23:48	#5
Renegade) A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tottenham, Ontario	Very glad I was one of the 2 that got a TM 1911... did you put those 2 precious drops of oil before ur first mag fill to lube up everything? Could be the pin needs some oil as well, remove the slide, drop some in, then work the trigger for 15-20 racks, then try. __________________ W1-5

October 15th, 2007, 10:16	#6
jerryliang2k Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississauga, ON	For some wacky reason the gun seems to work without any problems...... The airsoft gods have a sense of humor i guess. Thanks for the help regardless everyone, especially to Saint for finding that link . @ Renegade, can your 1911 empty a whole mag on one charge of gas? The reason I've been avoiding the TM 1911s like the plague is due to many reports of it having too small a gas resivoir. __________________ Primary - CA M249 - Systema PTW Sidearms - KWA G18c - WE 1911

October 15th, 2007, 11:04	#7
Renegade) A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tottenham, Ontario	I havnt tried a full mag yet, but I have fired quite a few shots then reload on just the one fill. I will try a full one today and let you know man. __________________ W1-5

October 15th, 2007, 16:07	#8
bikergeo Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ucluelet B.C.	I have the TM 1911 and i can fire the hole mag off with one fill of gas and theres still gas left in the mag.

October 15th, 2007, 16:15	#9
Renegade) A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tottenham, Ontario	Just fired off entire mag full, and then some, still got some left for storage. __________________ W1-5

October 15th, 2007, 16:45	#11
Colin_S Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Sigh I love my TM 1911 but I can't get a full mag out of BBs out of it, maybe 20-22 if I'm lucky. Happens with all 5 of my TM 1911 mags, dunno why even stock it was like that. __________________ Team GHOSTS - Fides et Amicitia Blog: http://www.colinsun.com G-45

October 15th, 2007, 17:53	#12
jerryliang2k Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississauga, ON	WE M1911 The Good - My WE gets around 1.5 - 2 mags of BBs off. The Bad - No Trades The Ugly - Orange tip :'( Anyone know if TM slides/barrels are compatible with WE? I want to swap out the slide and barrel. __________________ Primary - CA M249 - Systema PTW Sidearms - KWA G18c - WE 1911

October 15th, 2007, 17:54	#13
Renegade) A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tottenham, Ontario	hah, my orange tip on my TM is already gone light sanded it off, and gonna touch it up with some paint later just for looks. I plan to go metal kit sometime over the winter. __________________ W1-5

October 15th, 2007, 17:58	#14
jerryliang2k Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississauga, ON	My orange tip isn't painted on. It's actually a little cylinder glued on to the end of the barrel. The barrel is kinda ugly anyways. So ya, anyone know about the compatibility issues? __________________ Primary - CA M249 - Systema PTW Sidearms - KWA G18c - WE 1911

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