no trigger "click" in automatic mode after cocking-release in WE Scar

[Riko]

hi,

I have a problem with pulling the trigger while in automatic after cocking-release.

There is no trigger problem with:
- pulling trigger in semi after cocking-release
- pulling trigger in semi, than switching to auto after cocking-release

Only problem is when its on automatic, I cock-release, when I try to pull the trigger there is no "click".

See this film: YouTube - no trigger "click" in automatic mode after cocking-release in WE Scar

I have replaced the hammer, the trigger and the disconnecter with the RA Tech kit.
Since then it happened.
Everything is lubed....so whats can be the problem?

thx

[m102404]

I'd guess that the paddle that's supposed to catch the full auto sear isn't catching. The spring may not be positioned correctly, the paddle might be rotated around the wrong way...don't know without seeing it.

I'm guessing that you took the trigger/hammer assembly apart...try again, take care to position it all correctly.

Not sure what you mean by "stopper".

[Riko]

Originally Posted by m102404

I'd guess that the paddle that's supposed to catch the full auto sear isn't catching. The spring may not be positioned correctly, the paddle might be rotated around the wrong way...don't know without seeing it.

I'm guessing that you took the trigger/hammer assembly apart...try again, take care to position it all correctly.

Not sure what you mean by "stopper".

http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/...tem=RAT-WE-023
I mean disconnecter...

Every spring sits like it should sit originally....I have followed this precisely: YouTube - WE-Tech SCAR-L: Trigger Assembly Takedown (Part #93)
And you mean the spring at 6:36 I assume, that sits correctly

I will shoot tomorow, with co2 mag and I'll see if it miraculously disappears again like last time


edit2: I replaced the spring at the sear again, I followed the film step by step, I reassure you, everthing (concerning that spring) sits correctly) but problem stays

[Riko]

here some pics of the trigger assembly, there is nothing wrong with it to me....

[Dart]

That's normal operation. Mine does it and so do most peoples on the gasgun forums. Think of it as a saftey feature lol. Just charge in semi on the swap to safe or full auto.

[Riko]

Lol, it is not normal operation, since it has operated as it should before, thus you shouldn't accept that....
In other words, it SHOULD charge-release and fire in automatic! Period.


That said, after 6 co2 cartridges and alot of dissasemblying, it works.
Solution: i replaced the disconnector with the stock one.
So i bought a whole kit for nothing and only used the hammer.
Negative: the thread of the big screw that connects the whole trigger assembly with the lower receiver is almost gone...because of all that dissasemblying.

Bottom line, only buy the ratech hammer and not the whole kit.
The disconnector makes your whole trigger assembly malfunction.
Maybe you can use the trigger, but its for an m4, thus its very tiny!

Positive, i can dissasemble perfectly that trigger assembly and my hammer is solid as a rock

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by Riko

my hammer is solid as a rock

All guys say that.

[Dart]

Strange.... Maybe there was a bad run of them. I went and tried it again and it actually works when you charge in full auto. I have swapped the hammer out though for a new stock one. The old one got damaged when the bearing fell out.

[Riko]

Ra tech hammer is good, the rest is not good.

[Dart]

hows your semi auto work? I have read that the hammer can mess with that.... Also keep an eye on your sear as it will wear down faster now with the stronger metal of the new hammer.

[Riko]

Like I said, now it works like it should

You can cock the gun in semi and in auto mode, release the bolt in semi and in auto mode, and I can fire in semi and in auto mode.
The problem was that I could not fire in auto mode after cocking and releasing....
But that is fixed by installing all the stock parts, except for the hammer.

I think the problem has something to do with the minimal difference of how the ra tech disconnector is designed....

Just to be sure, the "sear" is the part black metal part with the big spring at the rear of the trigger assembly?
Because when you get your lower receiver in hand, and when you switch it in auto, than you pull back the hammer COMPLETELY, than the hammer will get catched by that piece, I assume you call the "sear".

Now I have grinded off the back of the hammer that is catched by the "sear"
But that was before I replaced the disconnector with the stock one. So maybe I should have done that or that wasnt neccessary, but so far no problems

I do see however some small golden splinters of the golden innerbarrel (the rear part, not the inner barrel itself)
I hope that is just due to the fact that my new co2 magazine is very tight fitted, the gas output really pushes against that barrel, so I think/hope its due to that.

I havent got a chance to use my older gas mag since I am out of gas.

[Ross]

Looks like the trigger you installed is the tiny m4 one. Last night I installed the trigger assembly kit and the whole thing wouldn't function with that short trigger. I had to put the stock one back in.

[Riko]

well, problem is fixed now with all things stock, only the hammer is the new ra tech one.

PS: I dont know whats with the small golden splinters, there are not many of them, but I see em.
Its from the rear inner barrel that holds the inner barrel.
Maybe its the co2 mag thats a very tight fit dunno.

Also, my hammer is harder to cock when its on automatic. When I release and cock again its smooth.