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gman1211 · April 23rd, 2017, 10:50

I'm going to chime in here and help put some perspective on this situation. My wife is an ex-cop, and two of my uncles were cops in the past. One of them now teaches at the police academy in Ontario, the other was the staff sergeant major for Alberta for a term (This means he looked after the entire province). This is a subject we have talked about a fair bit.

1. Most cop know nothing about airsoft legislation. This shit not like drug relate laws, its an extremely niche area in the law and it is really not worth there time to learn it. Cops only get 6 months of initial training, and "law" makes up a very small portion of that. As opposed to a lawyer, who have to go to school for a minimum for four years. Realistically, none of them are going to touch this, more info on this later.

2. http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/f...me_air-eng.htm This is not a valid source for information. This is the RCMP's interpretation of the law & regulations, and is not the firearms act. Just as an FYI, cops do not makes laws. So then why on earth do they make such bold claims if it's not law? Well to understand that you need to understand the RCMP. They always want to be able to delve into your personal life and privacy. They want to be able to search your home, cars, storage lockers etc. It allows them to find illegal activities, which in turn makes them look better.

3. No cop will ever touch this. There is no precedence set. As a cop, if you were to arrest someone and it goes to court, you have no back foot to stand on. As I mentioned above, they want more reasons to investigate your personal life, and if a court case goes bad this door will get closed. Part of there organizational culture is that they want more access to peoples life's, the cop who makes that harder is going to come under fire from his superiors. Also because there is no precedence, it means there is an insane amount of work that the officer has to put in, and they have better things to do. And on this subject, I personally know people who have had airsoft guns confiscated that shoot under 300 fps, they have all been returned to the individuals - this actually sets precedence in the opposite direction.

4. I've seen multiple people claim that they have called the CFP and that the CFP says guns under 366 fps are illegal. I don't doubt that they have called the CFP, and I promise you the CFP says it is illegal. It does not matter, they are still out to lunch. Again they have a culture in the RCMP were they want more to be illegal and not less, and again, there just simply is not enough legal backing for this statement within the firearms act & criminal code. Just to give you an idea of how cops function when it comes to this sort of stuff, most of my wife's co-workers had less then 50% of their charges stick.

People need to grow up. Cops are not legal experts. Stop talking to the RCMP and call a fucking lawyer.

April 23rd, 2017, 10:50	#18
gman1211 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: BC - Okanagan	I'm going to chime in here and help put some perspective on this situation. My wife is an ex-cop, and two of my uncles were cops in the past. One of them now teaches at the police academy in Ontario, the other was the staff sergeant major for Alberta for a term (This means he looked after the entire province). This is a subject we have talked about a fair bit. 1. Most cop know nothing about airsoft legislation. This shit not like drug relate laws, its an extremely niche area in the law and it is really not worth there time to learn it. Cops only get 6 months of initial training, and "law" makes up a very small portion of that. As opposed to a lawyer, who have to go to school for a minimum for four years. Realistically, none of them are going to touch this, more info on this later. 2. http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/f...me_air-eng.htm This is not a valid source for information. This is the RCMP's interpretation of the law & regulations, and is not the firearms act. Just as an FYI, cops do not makes laws. So then why on earth do they make such bold claims if it's not law? Well to understand that you need to understand the RCMP. They always want to be able to delve into your personal life and privacy. They want to be able to search your home, cars, storage lockers etc. It allows them to find illegal activities, which in turn makes them look better. 3. No cop will ever touch this. There is no precedence set. As a cop, if you were to arrest someone and it goes to court, you have no back foot to stand on. As I mentioned above, they want more reasons to investigate your personal life, and if a court case goes bad this door will get closed. Part of there organizational culture is that they want more access to peoples life's, the cop who makes that harder is going to come under fire from his superiors. Also because there is no precedence, it means there is an insane amount of work that the officer has to put in, and they have better things to do. And on this subject, I personally know people who have had airsoft guns confiscated that shoot under 300 fps, they have all been returned to the individuals - this actually sets precedence in the opposite direction. 4. I've seen multiple people claim that they have called the CFP and that the CFP says guns under 366 fps are illegal. I don't doubt that they have called the CFP, and I promise you the CFP says it is illegal. It does not matter, they are still out to lunch. Again they have a culture in the RCMP were they want more to be illegal and not less, and again, there just simply is not enough legal backing for this statement within the firearms act & criminal code. Just to give you an idea of how cops function when it comes to this sort of stuff, most of my wife's co-workers had less then 50% of their charges stick. People need to grow up. Cops are not legal experts. Stop talking to the RCMP and call a fucking lawyer. Last edited by gman1211; April 23rd, 2017 at 10:52..