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Old October 25th, 2014, 00:55   #43
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Originally Posted by Ricochet View Post
Airsoft guns are like used cars, once you drive them off of the lot they aren't worth nearly as much. Unless all work and installs are done by a reputable gun doc, then you're possibly walking into a bad situation. A gun cycling isn't proof of it working. You'll need to see the shim job, hear the motor and test performance. There's other little things, but way too many to mention. For your first gun, but something with a warrenty, unless the price is too good to pass up. Like new, half the price of it retail, with a box of mags, etc. That way you aren't out money if it shits the bed.

Airsoft isn't refined, especially when talking about the Canadian market. Pricing and availability are not always convenient, so you need to prioritize. For a gun, as long as it shoots straight, is reliable, and the quality and price are appropriate is step one. Pimp it out later. If it comes pimped out and cheap, look out, cheap shit breaks easy. The wrong batteries can swell, even burst into flames and destroy your gun, or just fry something, abd the wrong charger can fuck up your batteries and/or burn your house down. Everything has good ones and bad ones, from gear to accessories to guns and beyond. For every one good piece, there are five pieces of shit out there trying to entice you. Use crappy BBs, and you crack your nozzle, scratch your barrel, break your magazines. It goes on and on.

Here's some points to consider:

- EVERYONE who enters the sport on a budget overshoots their range. Quality over quantity everytime. If you cannot afford it, don't but it, or it'll cost you more long term. Prioritize your purchases, like gun and goggles first, then BDUs and vest, then boots and a radio, etc. Find the appropriate products AV'd buy them once you have the funds.

- EVERYONE enters the sport with misconceptions, goes for cool over practical. Shitty camo won't hide you, cheap accessories will break and won't work, uncomfortable gear will ruin your experience, etc, etc. Some guys buy a 19 lb M14 EBR because they really want one, and then find out that it's too heavy for them. People buy odd guns and then can't find parts. It goes on and on.

- Take the advice on here if you're smart. As you can see we are all from different areas of Canada, and yet we all say very similar, if not the same, things about starting out. Odds are we aren't wrong. We want you to enjoy the sport, not waste time and money like so many others.

- Any gun is really going to end up costing you $500 or more no matter what. A top end airsoft gun is $2,000 - $3,500, so $500 is affordable, wether you have it now or not. Every gun will need magazines, batteries, a charger, a sight, BBs, etc, etc. So you may and well buy BBs that sail straight and won't jam your gun, magazines that'll feed properly and last, and a charger that'll so a proper balance charge.

- Under $500 for a stock gun brand new, and your down to only a few decent choices. You don't create the budget, the sport demands it.

- Never lessen quality of a purchase so you can stuff a few more cheap items on your order. Buy he reliable gun, get the the gear and extras later if you're short on cash. For the holidays and your birthday ask for gift cards to stores like DS Tactical.

I hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by DrunkenTeddy View Post
For used guns, like I mentioned before there is no way to spot test most of the problems guns will have. You'd have to take the gun completely apart to notice some issues like partially stripped pistons, bad shim jobs, and a multitude of other issues. Ideally you test the gun at a place where it can be fired a reasonable distance, load it with BBs and a battery, test the FPS, adjust the hop up and down and make sure it changes the BB flight path, make sure all 3 selector modes work (SAFE/SEMI/FULL), and look for any damage to the body. Even after doing all that, which in most cases isn't possible, you still risk getting a lemon. I am extremely careful when I buy used, I fully know what warning signs to look for and I have still bought faulty guns. For your first gun, just don't take that risk.

That is a great price for battery charger and bbs. But you should be buying 2 batteries, and I would bet money that the charger you're buying doesn't balance charge (even if it says it does), so your batteries won't last as long on a cheap charger like that. Also make sure you are buying Bio BBs, all the local fields require Bio only.
I agree with you guys. I know getting a used airsoft gun is...less than desirable as a first gun. I have a couple of options though. Yesterday, I had my first airsoft ever airsoft game with Optix and his crew. It was awesome! (I also got AV'ed!) I also found out that one of his crew-members is selling is modded VFC HK416 for 250$...plus a bunch of midcaps...

I could ask one of those guys (they're all gun doc's) to come with me to check out the used G&G TR418 to make sure it's not a lemon...

Until then, buck for buck, which one is better? The VFC or the G&G? The idea of EBB on the G&G makes it very appealing...but if in the long run the VFC will last longer...would it be a better pick?
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