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m102404 · October 24th, 2013, 09:24

The other guys know way more about the specifics of this and that vs. me. I just know what works for me when you turn it on and look through it.

The differences between Gen 2 and Gen 2+ are readily apparent...as well as the differences between 2+ and 3. As said though...if you're making this type/scale of investment aim for a quality Gen2+ at least. The step up to a good Gen 3 unit is noticeable...but not really "holy crap the better picture is worth the extra $$$$". The "value" of going for a better unit is in the weight/gating/intensity gain/etc...

As with everything...set a budget range...actually put eye to scope before you buy...and don't discount the mounting systems that you'll need. Last thing you want is to dump all the money on it just to have to use a cranium torture device all the time. You don't "need" a $$$ helmet and a $$$ mount and a $$ shroud and a $$ adapter and a $$ counterweight and a $$...(you get the point)....but the nicer stuff is really nice. And many would say that you'd be foolish to hang a $$$$ optic off of a $10 clone mount, so factor that in.

One of the guys that had a Gen 2+ monocular with a really good tube in it and it was just jaw droppingly clear. Compared to a good Gen 2+ 4x riflescope it was no contest in which was cleaner/crisper/more usable/etc... At least to my eyes. Be sure to get a good look through it first...anyone not willing to let you look/scan/fiddle/test it out a bit isn't someone you want to deal with (or at least I wouldn't for this much money). Try a completely blacked out area, really dark night with just the stars/little ambient light, typical city street (which will look like green daylight), etc... Focus in on detail like picking out brick patterns on walls, details hidden in the shadows, etc...

Any decent NV is going to look great on a typical city street with street lights, house lights and cars going by. The real differentiator will be when there's a lot less light and things are pretty much pitch black so far as you can tell.

Neat stuff, have fun

October 24th, 2013, 09:24	#8
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	The other guys know way more about the specifics of this and that vs. me. I just know what works for me when you turn it on and look through it. The differences between Gen 2 and Gen 2+ are readily apparent...as well as the differences between 2+ and 3. As said though...if you're making this type/scale of investment aim for a quality Gen2+ at least. The step up to a good Gen 3 unit is noticeable...but not really "holy crap the better picture is worth the extra $$$$". The "value" of going for a better unit is in the weight/gating/intensity gain/etc... As with everything...set a budget range...actually put eye to scope before you buy...and don't discount the mounting systems that you'll need. Last thing you want is to dump all the money on it just to have to use a cranium torture device all the time. You don't "need" a $$$ helmet and a $$$ mount and a $$ shroud and a $$ adapter and a $$ counterweight and a $$...(you get the point)....but the nicer stuff is really nice. And many would say that you'd be foolish to hang a $$$$ optic off of a $10 clone mount, so factor that in. One of the guys that had a Gen 2+ monocular with a really good tube in it and it was just jaw droppingly clear. Compared to a good Gen 2+ 4x riflescope it was no contest in which was cleaner/crisper/more usable/etc... At least to my eyes. Be sure to get a good look through it first...anyone not willing to let you look/scan/fiddle/test it out a bit isn't someone you want to deal with (or at least I wouldn't for this much money). Try a completely blacked out area, really dark night with just the stars/little ambient light, typical city street (which will look like green daylight), etc... Focus in on detail like picking out brick patterns on walls, details hidden in the shadows, etc... Any decent NV is going to look great on a typical city street with street lights, house lights and cars going by. The real differentiator will be when there's a lot less light and things are pretty much pitch black so far as you can tell. Neat stuff, have fun Last edited by m102404; October 24th, 2013 at 09:28..