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Old March 26th, 2013, 00:59   #21
ThunderCactus
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The initial pressure is the thing making all the difference, that's what determines how much hop pressure you can apply. That's the specific and important detail that for this test means a polarstar is more closely related to a GBBR.
Yes we can test them on P*s and GBBRs, No we cannot compare an R-hop AEG to an R-hop P* or GBBR.

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Originally Posted by McKee View Post
http://mackila.com/airsoft/atp/07-a-02.htm

ATP tells us sub-1.5 joules it should basically be impossible to reach 200' without hop lobbing or impractical elevation adjustment. Yet people continually report CRAZY ranges with R-hop on airsoft mechanics forum and elsewhere.
We've been breaking 200ft with AEG's with out Rhop for a long time... and not by over-hopping either.
-All his testing was done with .25s
-Nobody getting out to 200+ft ever uses anything lighter than a .28

And furthermore, read the whole report, this is from his closing statements;
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Are people really able to achieve ranges out to 300 feet?
In short, it is definitely possible to hit something at 300 feet.

Having worked through the problem in terms of theory and some testing using my own rifle, it is very possible to hit something at 300 feet and airsoft snipers are indeed achieving "kills" at that range and beyond. That being said, I'm still pessimistic in that I doubt that a shooter could routinely hit a target at that range. The longest range that I have achieved, observed, or have had verified for hitting at a 18" diameter target consistently is 235 feet
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