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Alright this is my show time woot!!!
Background info:
Own a PTW Gen IV Max
Own a G&P WOC (WOC13 M4 Steel Barrel) GBBR
Build and own a Prime-RA-Tech-G&P Magpul GBBR (one of those rare receiver in Canada, AFAIK only two are in Canada)
Build and own a G&P WOC Cansoft (WOC 16 M16 in Full auto) GBBR
own a Daytonagun AKS74U External Air GBBR (Now its converted to AKS74M)
Lets talk the easist one, Money
A GBBR depending upon quality will set you anywhere from 450 to 1500, but that's go with the standard WOC ($1040) which is what I would recommand for a Magna user or Standard KJW M4 (Approx. $800)
The magazine for Magna cost 45 for a G&P one or $50 for a Pro-Win, don't get anything other than those two as they are either too expensive/ heavy/ leaky/ unstable fps
KJW costs around $30.
Propane adapter cost around $25, 20lb Propane tank refiller adapter $25 (its worth it if you use GBBR as 20lb refill is alot cheaper than buying new 1lb everytime) And 3 propane tanks to get you started $15.
A PTW will set you back approx $1300 (used) to $2000 for new and battery cost approx $50 and charger $50. Then you need to replace the spring/ cylinder which is $20 for spring or $200 for cylinder. A mag cost $40 for a Systema or $30 for a Andax Works Lancer L5.
A Daytonagun (AK, ask Justin for the Ar-15 pricing) external air is gonna cost you $700 for a D-Boys Receiver or $800 for a LCT (these are scary realistic) and you need a regulator which cost around $150 as well as a tank CO2 ($40-$60)or HPA($150-$250) and the mag cost...around $10-$25 depending on the brand of AEG mags, G&P feeds supposedly the best which is $12 per pop
These are the price to begin with,
assuming none of the gun or parts breakdown, a standard loadout of 6+1 mags the cost goes:
KJW Propane -Cheapest
Daytonagun External Air
G&P WOC Propane
Systema PTW Electric -Most Expensive
Now in terms of reliability...
Systema and Daytonagun are equal,
KJW is next with G&P WOC at the bottom
Soldier Firendly (Can you beat it, drag it through mud and sand)
Daytonagun is the best (I personally had mine Daytonagun buried in sand by accident in a game, besides ROF went from 800 to 650 it was mine. It took me an hour to clean all the sand out, it was literally everywhere, btw if you want to verify ask folks in Edmonton that attended Op Noobonia II they'll know)
Systema is next it loses in the fact without mod it's sensitive to moisture, if you toss it into the water, say goodbye to $300 worth of electronics
KJW is after due to the gas in mag is simply forbids tac reload and temperature will change the useability
G&P WOC is last simply it will destroy itself even under ideal condition.
In Terms of accuracy, out of the box,
PTW wins with Daytonagun (both has tightbore barrel 6.04mm and 6.03 respectively), then KJW (it has a M733 inner barrel in a M4 outer barrel) and WOC last (as it use a 210mm inner barrel to keep fps <380)
Noob-friendliness?
Right of the bat I'll say, I got G&P WOC13 first, Prime GBBR, PTW, WOC16, then Daytonagun and reading/ listening from user feedback.
G&P WOC- Good beginner choice if you are prepare to fix it
KJW M4 -Good beginner choice if you intend to mod it immediately to reduce fps via cradle airsoft fps reducer
Systema PTW -Good beginner choice if you don't mess or abuse with it. Money helps along the way
Daytonagun -Good beginner choice if you have a paintball tank already, this thing is basically baby proof. There's not alot of things you can do to make it stop shooting (destroying power source and/ or its relay system aka co2 tank and hose, run over with a tank, stick pointy end of BBQ sticks into the barrel as unjamming rod, flattening the nozzle) Any guns you want will stop shooting if you do what I mention above as well.
Pre-Game Upgrade requirement:
Systema PTW: Need to reduce the fps down via switching to M110/ M90 cylinder or spring (if you know how to change it)
KJW M4: Need to reduce the fps via cradle airsoft velocity reducer (~$30), full m4 length would be recommanded
G&P WOC: Doesn't need upgrade, I would suggest get a CQBR variant and keep inner barrel (especially tightbore) below 260mm or get NPAS (though those thing are will lead to replacement need as it self adjust as the vibration is too strong) I would recommand a Light weight Aluminium bolt carrier Element Light Weight, 5KU VLTOR, RA-Tech Lightweight, or Airsoft Surgeon VLTOR for gaming to increase gas efficiency from barely 1 mag into two in prowin (on auto) Spare nozzle or Aluminium nozzle would also be a good idea.
Daytonagun, NONE inner barrel is already tighbore, you can adjust fps via regulator
Quote:
Originally Posted by L473ncy
If I had 2K in the bank I'd go with Classic Airsoft.
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Finally there's someone that doesn't go
OM*G YOU HAVE TO HAVE A HOSE STICKING OUTTA YOUR GUN?!? AND CARRYING A F******G TANK? (BTW, in my last skirmish half the ppl didn't realize I was running external air until I start firing in auto as suppressive fire.
In Summary,
If you're Rich (Budget w/ $2500+) Get a PTW
If you're a tinkerer and a DIY fixer get a G&P WOC
If you're a fascist in realism get a KJW M4
If you are in between of all those above or not, get a Daytonagun
Oh btw, don't shoot External Air outside when sun sets, it's really really loud, I would say around 100dbs