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takealap January 14th, 2009 16:58

Spring guide for we 1911
 
Will a guarder long spring guide and barrel bushing fit in my we 1911 meu? Heres the link. http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/...oducts_id=1363

The Saint January 14th, 2009 17:07

WE can't take parts meant for Western Arms.

Drake January 14th, 2009 17:25

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Originally Posted by takealap (Post 898103)
Will a guarder long spring guide and barrel bushing fit in my we 1911 meu? Heres the link. http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/...oducts_id=1363

The answer is "almost."

The WA plug (that's a recoil spring plug, not a bushing) does fit in the WE, but it's slightly smaller (~ 0.5mm), so I'm not 100% how well it would sit. The old MGC plugs are actually an exact fit (but I doubt you could find one today). The WE recoil spring guides also just 'sit there', and the WA does fit.

However, even if it all fits correctly, that plug is meant to be used without a barrel bushing. Since the 1911s come with a straight barrel, you need the bushing to stabilize it. Otherwise you'd need to switch to a bull barrel (the ones with a cone-shaped muzzle) as well. Not sure which, if any, would fit the WE 1911.




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Originally Posted by The Saint (Post 898110)
WE can't take parts meant for Western Arms.

Actually, the Western Arms bushings fit perfectly in WEs.

The Saint January 14th, 2009 17:33

I stand corrected.

Drake January 14th, 2009 19:42

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Originally Posted by The Saint (Post 898126)
I stand corrected.

I have to admit it was surprising to say the least.

max.power January 14th, 2009 20:10

http://www.airsoftpost.com/replaceme...s-p-29957.html

Bushing you say?

They also have the Spring Recoil Plug. Sadly, I could not find the spring guide there.

Drake January 14th, 2009 21:02

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Originally Posted by max.power (Post 898226)
http://www.airsoftpost.com/replaceme...s-p-29957.html

Bushing you say?

They also have the Spring Recoil Plug. Sadly, I could not find the spring guide there.



Sadly it's on Evike, by far my least favorite retailer. I'd have to have run out of options before ordering from them again.

The bushing would also appear to be an OEM WE one, which means it'd be just as fragile as the one that comes on the gun. The made-for-Western-Arms ones are considerably more expensive, but they're usually steel or otherwise good quality metal and construction.

AirsoftGI also carries a few parts.

max.power January 14th, 2009 21:15

I bought the WA one, it didn't fit correctly; it sat about 3mm out from where it should've.

If you file down the spring guide 3-4mm, it would stop hitting the cap, which would reduce the stress on the bushing, thus making the stock one good enough, no?

BTW, it only took 1 week for the evike bushing to be shipped to atlantic Canada, and while the shipping was as much as the part, they were the only place that had it/could get it quickly.

Drake January 15th, 2009 00:15

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Originally Posted by max.power (Post 898271)
I bought the WA one, it didn't fit correctly; it sat about 3mm out from where it should've.

Really? Which bushing did you get?

I've used both WA and real steel bushings on my WE (a Tactical and a Classic) and they fit just fine. (The real steel one will require slight modification for the barrel to fit correctly, however).



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If you file down the spring guide 3-4mm, it would stop hitting the cap, which would reduce the stress on the bushing, thus making the stock one good enough, no?
I suppose, but I'd rather get the better quality part in. Especially if the ring on the plug is busted off and the bushing is actually holding the plug in. If its just for show I guess it doesn't matter.



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BTW, it only took 1 week for the evike bushing to be shipped to atlantic Canada, and while the shipping was as much as the part, they were the only place that had it/could get it quickly.
I've had an Evike order get here relatively quickly (even though it was the wrong part; it was one of those Magpul trigger guards, and I'd specifically asked if it was the airsoft or narrower real steel version, and they assured me it was the airsoft version. It turned out to be the RS version). A subsequent attempted order tuned into a ~6 week nightmare which only got resolved after both VISA and PayPal got involved.

The ridiculous shipping is a UPS issue (my least favorite shipper :P ), and unfortunately most US retailers insist on using them for international shipping. Dunno why, most other US companies agreed to ship via USPS when asked.

takealap January 16th, 2009 16:31

spring guide
 
Sorry I didnt mean to say barrel bushing lol what Im asking is if what is on the link in my first reply will that fit on my we?

Drake January 16th, 2009 16:56

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Originally Posted by takealap (Post 899318)
Sorry I didnt mean to say barrel bushing lol what Im asking is if what is on the link in my first reply will that fit on my we?

That's what I replied to; I only corrected the terminology because you said bushing and the picture in the link was a guide and plug.

Even if it did fit, you'd still need to change the barrel.

takealap January 16th, 2009 17:56

spring guide
 
ok, but is there any long recoil rods I can get for the we?

Drake January 16th, 2009 18:05

ANY long recoil spring guide will require a different plug to allow the spring guide to pass through it; these plugs do NOT use the barrel bushing. A barrel bushing is REQUIRED for any straight barrel (which is what is in your gun now).

Therefor, ANY long recoil spring guide WILL require you to change your barrel to a bull barrel.

bleaches January 16th, 2009 18:25

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Originally Posted by Drake (Post 899374)
Therefor, ANY long recoil spring guide WILL require you to change your barrel to a bull barrel.

nope;) he can use this with the long recoil spring with a straight barrel and bushings
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...l?prodID=24752:D

Drake January 16th, 2009 19:29

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Originally Posted by bleaches (Post 899381)
nope;) he can use this with the long recoil spring with a straight barrel and bushings
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...l?prodID=24752:D

But thats for TM 1911, it won't fit the WE. He's confused enough already, don't make my job harder :P (or find one for Western Arms/MGC :D )


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