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Zfurlong December 17th, 2014 23:56

Polarstar question
 
Hey guys, I'm looking at having a polarstar gun in the near future, I'm just debating on buying the drop in kit or going and getting one of those rebuilt polarstar guns. What would you do in this situation?

Base gun model would be m4 or m16
Role I play mostly is dm, but I do a lot of covering fire on occasion.
I already have a promy delta strike inner barrel I would use with it, and I will be doing rhop on the delta strike.
In the future I would like to get a beta mag for making an lmg build on it.
Money is no object. for the sake of a couple hundred, depending on the feedback, I have no problem getting the prebuilt package.
What are your thoughts?

SuperHog December 18th, 2014 00:14

Either ways you will get a good working gun. It depends if you want to do the conversion yourself and also will you be happy with the exterior of a pre-packaged gun, or do you want to convert one of your person gun.

I tend to change a lot on pre-packaged guns and end up with my own over a period of time.

Cobrajr122 December 18th, 2014 00:20

Unless you already have a doner gun, you should go for one of the P* prefabs. They use great externals, and you know it will have been installed and aligned properly.

You should also look into the SMPs as well.

Zfurlong December 18th, 2014 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobrajr122 (Post 1924867)
Unless you already have a doner gun, you should go for one of the P* prefabs. They use great externals, and you know it will have been installed and aligned properly.

You should also look into the SMPs as well.

What's the difference between a standard fusion engine and the smp?

cetane December 18th, 2014 16:15

Fusion engine ~ ptw'ish
Smp ~ std aeg.


And I am no ptw fanboy. I'll take a regular aeg any day, but a p* over smp for the small price difference

Smp only open chamber. P* I believe can run either open or closed depending on fcu settings

danhay December 21st, 2014 19:37

For a good review of the P* and the SMP, have a look here:

http://www.bingoairsoftworks.com/

ThunderCactus December 21st, 2014 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by cetane (Post 1924956)
Fusion engine ~ ptw'ish
Smp ~ std aeg.

Who's ass did you pull that out of?
The difference between an AEG and a ptw is the BARREL GROUP, the internal function on both is exactly the same, just accomplished with different parts.

If any of you P* idiots think having a different method of air delivery into your barrel is going to do ANYTHING to affect your range and accuracy, then you don't know shit about how an airsoft gun works.

P*s and SMPs are very specifically just for increasing reliability and potentially rate of fire, they do not increase shot performance over that of an AEG.

L473ncy December 22nd, 2014 13:17

But you can't defy the laws of physics.

A force acting on a body is a force acting on a body. There's literally no difference between say a bike pump and compressor they both deliver air to whatever you're pumping, one just does so faster than the other.

Keep in mind our airsoft guns are 99% similar to how muskets work, we shoot BB's for BBWarz not bullets/pellets with rifling and such.

ThunderCactus December 22nd, 2014 14:42

I dont hate polarstars, I think theyre fantastic drop in solutions to get guaranteed reliability and dead silent guns. And if they really did perform better than a ptw id have two of them.
What I hate is people who think they break the laws of physics.

Aegs easily match p*s for pressure and air volume on short barrels, infact an aeg can generate up to 200psi on a ported cylinder.
What makes and breaks your range and accuracy is the barrel group.

ThunderCactus December 22nd, 2014 17:01

hmmmmm where have I heard that before...

FreelancerInc December 22nd, 2014 17:08

*looks at mcbains post count and user tags* *looks at thundercactus' post count and user tags*....

My vote goes to the guy playing for 10+ years and has worked on more guns then 99% of the airsoft community

ThunderCactus December 22nd, 2014 17:19

I'm not saying it's impossible to make a P* shoot as good as a ptw, they all work on the exact same physics. It's just a matter of stabilizing your barrel and having the hop chamber work more effectively.
But then YOU can't say that it's impossible for an AEG to shoot as good as your P*, because not only is a ptw and aeg, but it can use the exact same barrel group as your P*.

My point is, it's not the P* that makes your gun shoot fantastic. Lots of guns that aren't P*s shoot fantastic. Lots of GBBRs can shoot as good as ptws, too.

cetane December 22nd, 2014 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 1925331)
Who's ass did you pull that out of?
The difference between an AEG and a ptw is the BARREL GROUP, the internal function on both is exactly the same, just accomplished with different parts.

More to the fact that a p* is a more sophisticated in design mechanically & electronically with its fcu compared to a smp. How a ptw is more sophisticated compared to a generic aeg. Both p* & smp use air to spew bbs, and ptw & aeg use a battery to turn a motor to turn a gearset to move a piston against a spring.

I suppose a better analogy would have been smp -> honda, p* -> benz...

ThunderCactus December 22nd, 2014 17:34

^ See that makes way more sense

wintez December 23rd, 2014 10:29

I don't think anyone jacked his post.....TC is one of the best gun docs in Canada and has worked on numerous AEG's, PTW's, FCC stuff and P*'s.

So I would personally take his words as actual fact.

So maybe open your ears and listen. This guy does his research


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