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<MoMo> July 8th, 2005 11:14

Green gas in HFC134a gun?
 
Is it possible to use green gas instead of HFC134a in a GBB? I was planning on doing so with a Glock 23F. Is it safe? Or will it blow the slide off?

Mantelope July 8th, 2005 11:17

Stronger gas means more wear on the gun. All guns will eventually break, using a higher pressure gas like propane means that they'll break sooner. No, your slide won't blow off.

[Avtomat] July 8th, 2005 11:18

its not good on any gbb to use hipower gas, it wares the internals. Best if you get a metal slide for it. Some gbbs lasts longer on propane then others, its just a matter of time.



*edit* oop beat me to it

the slide might crack, but never blow apart like bomb.

RAS_Jackson July 8th, 2005 11:23

You will break your KSC Glock 23F if you run anything other than HFC134a, it will crack in the grip. The 23 cant handle green or propane. I have 3 broken 23F's, all broken inthe same spot.

ILL9MIL July 8th, 2005 12:21

RAS, that is AMAZING that the grip broke on your 3 G23Fs, considering they have the HW material made frames. Do you have pics of how they broke? I have 5 G19s and 1 G23F and use ET1600 Red Gas which is 50psi higher than propane at room temp, and have never had a frame break. Were you using an upgraded recoil spring?

[Avtomat] July 8th, 2005 12:24

did you happen to use red gas?

medhatboy July 8th, 2005 12:27

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Originally Posted by [Pan-da]
did you happen to use red gas?

I don't think I've ever seen red gas in Canada, or even the mythical black gas.

Shugart July 8th, 2005 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by medhatboy
Quote:

Originally Posted by [Pan-da]
did you happen to use red gas?

I don't think I've ever seen red gas in Canada, or even the mythical black gas.


Isn't Red Gas just co2

ILL9MIL July 8th, 2005 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shugart
Quote:

Originally Posted by medhatboy
Quote:

Originally Posted by [Pan-da]
did you happen to use red gas?

I don't think I've ever seen red gas in Canada, or even the mythical black gas.


Isn't Red Gas just co2

No.

[Avtomat] July 8th, 2005 13:21

i want to see some newbi use a crapy gbb, use red/black gas in it and blow up on the first shot.

ILL9MIL July 8th, 2005 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Pan-da]
i want to see some newbi use a crapy gbb, use red/black gas in it and blow up on the first shot.


Ive seen a guys g19 metal slide fly off on the blowback and smash his head :roll:

ILLusion July 8th, 2005 18:49

black gas is CO2. Red gas is R22... the same propellent used in airbrushes I believe.

captainafternoon July 8th, 2005 18:53

I wouldnt recommend useing propane in a plastic slide gun... Itll crack just like my KJW Glock 23. It wont crack right away, but usually after going though a bag of bbs.

By the way RAS can you post a pic of the 23 that cracked at the handle? Im just curiouse to what it looks like.

aftica July 8th, 2005 23:42

fwiw...i have a brand new ksc glock 23f. the first mag through the gun, i used propane. blew the slide clean off, the selector switch no longer works either! :smack:

captainafternoon July 9th, 2005 15:18

LOL, Reminds me of what happened with my gun.


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