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Kingsix January 20th, 2011 17:27

Post your PLA loadouts
 
Lets see your PLA loadouts Comrades

I'll start with mine it's a simple Type 65 uniform and Chi-com AK chest rig.
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._4392746_n.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._6440786_n.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._6154842_n.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...g?t=1295562411

Other Airsofters from China Mainly GK-80 and Type 65 and the famous mao hat

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...uDSLI6PLl4.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...A3vyvADxih.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...ZLvG6IaeAN.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...cTqTgXd3Uy.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...b5oIzyxPH1.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...EXkS4yZzYG.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...MUtBjcvkiz.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...tvyIbW0Eev.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...DZCdEbKlIX.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...d7a4W6xDqf.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...cbd7LhS6Z2.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...Puuyn7YO-1.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...ofPuuyn7YO.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...WnimHyVDuW.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...qabpvWdUhi.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...Cj5c8Rauar.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...eitnan75ax.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...IWAvESNz7V.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...X5G5z47AbK.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...ietnan25ui.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...ietnan10nj.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...Nlxt3ix1pW.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...W45XUhxWg2.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...eitnan75ax.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...eitnan65fh.jpg

T@NK January 20th, 2011 18:28

you got account on Combat2000? or wargameyau?

Kingsix January 20th, 2011 18:58

Nope I found these pics while doing research when I was doing my type 65 loadout.

T@NK January 20th, 2011 19:06

i see, we are currently using type 87 BDU and type 02 airborne combat vest. you ok with that?

Short Round January 20th, 2011 19:18

I just have patches for my loadout :p they are very cool though, authentic I believe

Kingsix January 20th, 2011 19:20

Let's see some loadout pictures wingmantank it's not fair I'm the only one with pictures of my loadout :D

T@NK January 20th, 2011 21:34

Alright, here is 1 pic from 2007, We got 16 members at the peak period. Some of them were international students and left the country already, right now we have 4 core members and we are looking to recruit more fresh hands to our team. We welcome anyone that are interested in Chinese PLA. Our current load outs are type 87 woodland BDU and type 02 airborne combat vest as we cosplay the Chinese PLAF 15TH Airborne Division, we are trying to have all our members equiped with type 97/97B rifle but it is not a must.

BTW, Ignore the two on the right, they are not members of out team.
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/e...k/IMGP1238.jpg

Cifyra January 20th, 2011 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingmantank (Post 1391563)
Alright, here is 1 pic from 2007, We got 16 members at the peak period. Some of them were international students and left the country already, right now we have 4 core members and we are looking to recruit more fresh hands to our team. We welcome anyone that are interested in Chinese PLA. Our current load outs are type 87 woodland BDU and type 02 airborne comebat vest as we cosplay the Chinese PLAF 15TH Airborne Division, we are trying to have all our members equiped with type 97/97B rifle but it is not a must.

BTW, Ignore the two on the right, they are not members of out team.
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/e...k/IMGP1238.jpg

PLA teams are kinda rare, where are you guys based?

Kingsix January 20th, 2011 22:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iskaryot (Post 1391584)
PLA teams are kinda rare, where are you guys based?

There have been guys that have wanted to do PLA loadouts or have done them in the base but China didn't have it's own Subforum until today we may see more interested members or new teams because we now have a subforum to organize our topics instead of begin categorized with Opfor/ Other regions, it's only fair Vietnam has their own thread :D

On the Other note the PLA Airborne team is based in the Greater Toronto Area I haven't seen them play as a team but I have seen wingmantank and his Type 97b in action. I remember that one night at CQB outdoor that his gun broke down. I was a combat photographer at the time..

T@NK January 20th, 2011 23:50

Oh, ya, -20 degree+ lipo= broken piston

sortie39 January 21st, 2011 03:21

forefinger,forefinger,forefinger.

Cifyra January 21st, 2011 03:44

scuseme for being a noob but whats lipo?

Chayce January 21st, 2011 03:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingsix (Post 1391444)
Let's see some loadout pictures wingmantank it's not fair I'm the only one with pictures of my loadout :D

Glad to finally have a PLA thread going. I'd post my pics after I order a few more parts to complete my loadout :D

T@NK January 21st, 2011 11:02

lipo is akind of battery

Kingsix January 21st, 2011 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iskaryot (Post 1391786)
scuseme for being a noob but whats lipo?

Lipo is slang for Lithium Polymer and it's a type of Lithium battery just like Li-ion. The advantage of Lipo batteries are higher energy density and smaller size they do not suffer from memory effect commonly found on Nicad batteries. They do need a special charger for safe recharging operation.

T@NK January 21st, 2011 20:03

http://www.popsoftclub.net/lcommander/me25/DSC04941.jpg

this pic is from a fellow friend in China, showed full sets of 06 combat modular system and plate carrier.

T@NK January 21st, 2011 20:11

And this is the type 06 rifle men loading vest, original source is from Mr L.commander of combat2000 forum.

http://www.popsoftclub.net/lcommander/me25/DSC04951.jpg

http://www.popsoftclub.net/lcommander/me25/DSC04954.jpg

http://www.popsoftclub.net/lcommander/me25/DSC04955.jpg

http://www.popsoftclub.net/lcommander/me25/DSC04953.jpg

LegioXIII January 21st, 2011 20:11

Is...is he delivering Chinese food?

Short Round January 21st, 2011 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingmantank (Post 1392290)
http://www.popsoftclub.net/lcommander/me25/DSC04941.jpg

this pic is from a fellow friend in China, showed full sets of 06 combat modular system and plate carrier.

I am all jelly in my belly. I want those vests

Cifyra January 21st, 2011 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingmantank (Post 1392290)
http://www.popsoftclub.net/lcommander/me25/DSC04941.jpg

this pic is from a fellow friend in China, showed full sets of 06 combat modular system and plate carrier.

fk yeah baby~! Someday I'm going to get myself all of those...

Cifyra January 21st, 2011 20:40

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...im/ghillie.jpg

Trying to "cosplay" these guys, except with a cap and a Type 79/85. Are they wearing type 02 or type 01 vests?

Also, what combat knife do they use?

Edit: Which is more realistic for a modern PLA soldier to have, a TT-33, or a KWA CZ-75? And which one should I buy for my loadout?

Type 54 is a copy of TT-33, I think with some modifications
NZ-75 is a copy of a copy of CZ-75, both look similar except for the trigger guard

T@NK January 21st, 2011 21:16

the vest is using 87 camo, so its a old type, can't really tell its a 01 or 02 as the cape covered some parts of the vest. visually speaking, I think usp .45 is more close to the type 92 pistol than CZ-75. the kwa is making a tt-33 right now, if you wanna cosplay the pre 2000 load out, go with the tt-33 then.

Cifyra January 21st, 2011 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingmantank (Post 1392338)
the vest is using 87 camo, so its a old type, can't really tell its a 01 or 02 as the cape covered some parts of the vest. visually speaking, I think usp .45 is more close to the type 92 pistol than CZ-75. the kwa is making a tt-33 right now, if you wanna cosplay the pre 2000 load out, go with the tt-33 then.

*Sigh* this is really frustrating, trying to get a post 2000 load out, but still trying to stay authentic. Least the PLA still uses the SVD, otherwise I'd be a soldier without a gun.

So in the end, CZ-75, USP .45, or TT-33 are my only choices lol

TT-33 might be more reasonable considering some non-frontlines still carry them


Edit: by any chance you know the difference between 02 and 01?

T@NK January 21st, 2011 23:03

01=improved version of type 95 rifle men vest, 02= paratrooper vest

02 vest
http://popsoftclub.net/lcommander/me15/02v_2.jpg

01 vest
http://popsoftclub.net/lcommander/me15/01v_1.jpg

Cifyra January 21st, 2011 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingmantank (Post 1392400)
01=improved version of type 95 rifle men vest, 02= paeatrooper vest

02 vest
http://popsoftclub.net/lcommander/me15/02v_2.jpg

01 vest
http://popsoftclub.net/lcommander/me15/01v_1.jpg

Also, what combat knife do they use? It looks like a M9 knife lol

Kingsix January 22nd, 2011 00:04

http://popsoftclub.net/lcommander/me15/qgf03_6.jpg

Soo many helmet covers :drool

I like helmets with my loadouts :D

Cifyra January 22nd, 2011 00:37

Helmet is for people who get shot in the head :3 *wears my PLA cap*

T@NK January 22nd, 2011 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iskaryot (Post 1392444)
Also, what combat knife do they use? It looks like a M9 knife lol

I believe its a M9 clone, for type 95 rifle

Kingsix January 22nd, 2011 01:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iskaryot (Post 1392467)
Helmet is for people who get shot in the head :3 *wears my PLA cap*

I've been playing with a helmet for a long time a helmet with no cover will get you shot in the head other than that I haven't noticed any difference between a cap and a helmet. I used to challenge shooters to hit the red star on the cap :D

Cifyra January 22nd, 2011 01:48

Oh yea, you guys know where I can get 02/ 01/ 06 vests cheaper than the ebay sellers?

T@NK January 22nd, 2011 12:06

if u are in toronto and are a member of my team, we will supply the 02 vest, we still have some 02 vest as the team's property, but they are not for sale, they must be return to our supply officer when you leave the team. you won't find any real 06 on the market yet, they are restricted item. as for 01, try ebay.

Cifyra January 22nd, 2011 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingmantank (Post 1392635)
if u are in toronto and are a member of my team, we will supply the 02 vest, we still have some 02 vest as the team's property, but they are not for sale, they must be return to our supply officer when you leave the team. you won't find any real 06 on the market yet, they are restricted item. as for 01, try ebay.

Mississauga

T@NK January 22nd, 2011 14:05

I am going to Sunday night Sgt Splatter's game, you can come over and meet up if you want to.

Cifyra January 22nd, 2011 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingmantank (Post 1392699)
I am going to Sunday night Sgt Splatter's game, you can come over and meet up if you want to.

Not until exams end and break starts, but ty for the offer lol. I'll definitely start checking out the games and such once I have time. Btw, I don't have an AEG yet, so that's going to be a problem...

Short Round January 22nd, 2011 17:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iskaryot (Post 1392715)
Not until exams end and break starts, but ty for the offer lol. I'll definitely start checking out the games and such once I have time. Btw, I don't have an AEG yet, so that's going to be a problem...

Just wondering where your from, you don't have your location specified :p

Balaclava's are where its at. Not helmets or hats

Cifyra January 22nd, 2011 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Najohn (Post 1392845)
Just wondering where your from, you don't have your location specified :p

Balaclava's are where its at. Not helmets or hats

Balaclava with hats =P

Cifyra January 22nd, 2011 17:39

Btw, is wingtankman's team and Najohn's team totally separate?

Short Round January 22nd, 2011 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iskaryot (Post 1392862)
Btw, is wingtankman's team and Najohn's team totally separate?

Yea our team is spereate. My/Kingsix's PLA team is more of a disccussion group, however we will be an active team at some point in the future. Now RISE is our active/main team.

I would however love to play with wingtankman's team

kaiu January 22nd, 2011 19:11

We are like the mixed team with guys going Vietnam, PLA, ROC, South Korean looks, and I'm guessing future JSDF, and North Korean (if Cooney doesn't give up there) look :P

Short Round January 22nd, 2011 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiu (Post 1392935)
We are like the mixed team with guys going Vietnam, PLA, ROC, South Korean looks, and I'm guessing future JSDF, and North Korean (if Cooney doesn't give up there) look :P

that too lol

Majority of us will have pla loadouts though hence why we went with the PLA title.

Kingsix January 22nd, 2011 20:46

I joined Najohn 's team before I knew about a PLA team.

Cifyra January 22nd, 2011 20:52

PLA uses water flasks, not camelbaks right? =P

On one of fresh_tea vests, there's a flask inside the flask pouch, but in another picture he took it out. So I'm not sure if I should buy the 07 Flask separately. Also, do you think I should invest in a PLA backpack?

Short Round January 22nd, 2011 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iskaryot (Post 1392997)
PLA uses water flasks, not camelbaks right? =P

On one of fresh_tea vests, there's a flask inside the flask pouch, but in another picture he took it out. So I'm not sure if I should buy the 07 Flask separately. Also, do you think I should invest in a PLA backpack?

Unless you are playing lots of milsims, I'd opt not to get one however, if it is for a good price then ya as it is always good to have just in case.

T@NK January 22nd, 2011 22:51

dude...my name is Wingmantank, not wingtankman... u can call me Tank for short

sortie39 January 23rd, 2011 03:37

I m sssssssssssso fking jealous about u guys......
unlike the eastcoast,we ve got a pile of freaks and retards from the westcoast!!!!

give me a roar if any of u are chinese mainlanders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-=ArchAngel=- January 23rd, 2011 06:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie39 (Post 1393236)
I m sssssssssssso fking jealous about u guys......
unlike the eastcoast,we ve got a pile of freaks and retards from the westcoast!!!!

give me a roar if any of u are chinese mainlanders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

roar?
am i doing this right?

edit: woops. i got all caught up that i forgot im not a mainlander.

Sino January 23rd, 2011 07:12

roar? read my signature then roar to the sky! lol

T@NK January 23rd, 2011 11:56

roar

Cifyra January 23rd, 2011 12:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingmantank (Post 1393086)
dude...my name is Wingmantank, not wingtankman... u can call me Tank for short

Ok I'll call you Winged Tank from now on.

http://memegenerator.net/smugleaf/Im...IVE-A-CRAP.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie39 (Post 1393236)
I m sssssssssssso fking jealous about u guys......
unlike the eastcoast,we ve got a pile of freaks and retards from the westcoast!!!!

give me a roar if any of u are chinese mainlanders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unlike you 大陆子, I'm from Hong Kong eh he he he he...


http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/050/00...jpg?1274047308

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...ne-d2xybey.png

Edit: hehe, sorry, just HAD to spam smugleaf cause he's so fking awesome, so are mainlanders rawr!

T@NK January 23rd, 2011 13:18

so you think you are superior?

Cifyra January 23rd, 2011 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingmantank (Post 1393372)
so you think you are superior?

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/smugleaf-snivy

Obviously I was trolling

sortie39 January 23rd, 2011 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iskaryot (Post 1393351)


Unlike you 大陆子, I'm from Hong Kong eh he he he he...



Edit: hehe, sorry, just HAD to spam smugleaf cause he's so fking awesome, so are mainlanders rawr!

hey,hongkong little bastard,kiss my ass please!~~

Cifyra January 23rd, 2011 14:29

For those who've never lived in Hong Kong for a period of time, I'll tell you how Hong Kong people REALLY view the mainland Chinese. Before PRC took control of Hong Kong in 1997, many of them viewed themselves as superior economically, culturally, etc. As a matter of fact, right before England handed Hong Kong over to China, some Hong Kong families emigrated to USA, Canada, England, Taiwan, etc. because they thought China would confiscate all their properties (the red scare). Obviously they were just being ignorant.

Now, in the 21st Century, when China became an economic powerhouse that could rival the world's only superpower, USA, there are more people who support the PRC with all their hearts, than those who still think they are superior. Hong Kong politics is so messed up that there are 10+ parties, all of them are equally powerful. Some wants closer ties to China, some wants more independence, some are left wing, some are right wing. As a result, nothing ever gets done in Hong Kong, just like how Hong Kong's population is divided amongst themselves. But a recent study showed that as time passed, more and more people call themselves 中国人 rather than 香港人.

Although pretty much all Hong Kong people are friendly towards the mainland Chinese, their private views are a bit different. There are rumors that 内地人 are over-achievers, hard working, sly, and would scam you out of your money if they wanted to. Of course, most people know that they are just rumors.

Although I identify myself as a Chinese and support the Communist Party, my parents are still troubled over the Chinese government. They are always like "Oh, they are not democratic," or "Oh, they are corrupt." Obviously, some of them would often confuse the Communist Party under Mao with the Party under Hu Jintao. Lol every time I buy PLA's BDU or combat hats, they always have this disapproving look =/ It doesn't help that they are also Christians, which brings us to our next subject.

With families that are religious, they would view China's lack of freedom of religion an affront to their God/Goddess/Spirits. Even with China's new "don't ask don't tell" policy (Unless you're falun gong, then nobody can help you), to the religious people of Hong Kong, you're either with "insert religion name" or you're the devil incarnate. Since most people from Hong Kong are Buddhists with Christianity in 2nd place growing rapidly, there's often an "us vs. them" mentality.

http://www.omf.org/var/omf/storage/i..._pie_chart.jpg

But at the end of the day, to the westerners, they are still Chinese. You can see it at my school, Hong Kong people and Mainland Chinese stick together at lunch tables while 白人 get their own. Multiculturalism my ass...

So yea, people like me support PRC, other people like my parents support Hong Kong being separate while envying their economy. Since the Hong Kong dollar is pegged to the US dollar (gj, retards...), for once in their life these Hong Kong middle-class families are doing worse than the mainland middle-class. Hence, they'd get jealous lol...

Anyways, none of this would matter once a Hong Kong person gets to know a mainlander on a personal level. Any level headed person would not believe the rumors and

Cifyra January 23rd, 2011 14:33

act accordingly.

Of course, we still make 内地人 jokes just like how New Yorkers make Redneck jokes and such. Not to be taken seriously since we're all Chinese XD

Edit: I'd love to know if this is the same in Taiwan... I know people from Taiwan who despises everything related to the PRC, while others are more level headed.

T@NK January 23rd, 2011 14:58

I feel sorry for those people who divide and judge each other by their geographical difference or race, thats all I gotta say...

Edit: Please stick to the topic of this thread, the only purpose of this thread is to discuss LOAD OUT OF PLA, if you wanna talk about political view/opinion/topic please go somewhere else.


Tank

Cifyra January 23rd, 2011 15:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingmantank (Post 1393422)
I feel sorry , thats all I gotta say...

Edit: Please stick to the topic of this thread, the only purpose of this thread is to discuss LOAD OUT OF PLA, if you wanna talk about political view/opinion/topic please go somewhere else.


Tank

And yea this should be about load-outs, and I've got a question actually

01 and 02 vests are just better versions of 91 vests right? cause I saw a 91 vest being sold by honesty-honesty. Also, do real soldiers actually wear 07 vests? Cause I've never seen them with it

http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/m/mbsF...XQTeKw/140.jpg
http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/m/mJ-x...svh28w/140.jpg

T@NK January 23rd, 2011 15:20

the so called 07 vests are all prototypes and never been field test so far. some 06 vests have been issued already. the 91 vest looks similar to 01/02, so I won't say they are not related.

Cifyra January 23rd, 2011 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingmantank (Post 1393422)
I feel sorry for those people who divide and judge each other by their geographical difference or race, thats all I gotta say...

Last post before re-railing this thread:

Damn straight, nobody should be judged based on their culture or race. However, we are all guilty of it, don't lie. When we see the word "American", we automatically think 白鬼. When we think of a gangster with a gun, we automatically think 黑鬼. It's not our fault, but the news or shows like COPS really makes us racist subconsciously.

YouTube - AVENUE Q - 'Everybody's a Little Racist,' Broadway Cast

And since we're all a little bit racist, sometimes we gotta take it a bit light-heatedly.

Cifyra January 23rd, 2011 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingmantank (Post 1393444)
the so called 07 vests are all prototypes and never been field test so far. some 06 vests have been issued already. the 91 vest looks similar to 01/02, so I won't say they are not related.

Alright, guess I'll skip the 07 vests until they get fielded. I've been looking for actual vests like the Crossdraw vests because I think they look better =P But since all the 06 vests are restricted, I'll just stick with whatever I can get my hands on for now.

Short Round January 23rd, 2011 15:41

We are all chinese, or atleast asian, which makes us awesome, end of story

Cifyra January 23rd, 2011 16:23

Ok, so I ordered the rank patch as well as the division patch (Beijing ofc), with a 07 t-shirt, now all I need is to order my other stuff from honesty-honesty and I'd have the complete set, sans rifle and a vest...

Short Round March 10th, 2011 17:55

Ken's Where's that pic of you with the helmet?

Kingsix March 10th, 2011 18:30

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...g?t=1299806319
Ok Najohn lets see pics of your new PAP bdu!

Short Round March 12th, 2011 08:43

We will see lol

Cifyra March 13th, 2011 01:10

Wikipedia says PLA uses NP-58(P226 clone) and NR08(MP5 clone)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%...ntry_equipment
But as we all know, we can't trust Wikipedia completely.

Edit: Try to keep an eye out for a photo or a video that could verify this. Much appreciated.

Short Round March 13th, 2011 01:16

Cool story bro....

T@NK March 20th, 2011 20:19

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/e...k/12652893.jpg

Seems the PLA started to use mix camo now, appears like a Tibetan camo BDU jacket and 07 Urban camo BDU pants.

Short Round March 20th, 2011 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iskaryot (Post 1427391)
Wikipedia says PLA uses NP-58(P226 clone) and NR08(MP5 clone)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%...ntry_equipment
But as we all know, we can't trust Wikipedia completely.

Edit: Try to keep an eye out for a photo or a video that could verify this. Much appreciated.

OPEN WIDE here comes the spoon

I googled "NR08" and the first link it gave me had all the answers

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...-(Norinco-NR08)

Cifyra March 20th, 2011 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Najohn (Post 1432539)
OPEN WIDE here comes the spoon

I googled "NR08" and the first link it gave me had all the answers

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...-(Norinco-NR08)

Negative, PLA =/= Chinese Armed Police. I was the one who posted that link several months ago. You're not helping... Nice try tho.


Edit: Allow me to clarify so you don't make similar mistakes in the future. All of my questions posed on ASC had been fed through google at least twice in different wording if not more, to no avail due to either lack of sources or the language barrier barring me from Chinese sites. It's quite laughable actually, when supposed "veterans" of ASC take to bait and try to troll me using facts that I already knew. Regarding this, I'm not sure if's a matter of me not being clear in the first place, or the second party not reading my posts properly. Quod erat demonstrandum by many of my conversations with various individuals in not just the China section, but even once in the Newbie Tank.

In any case, I'm not suggesting that you were trying flame me or being patronizing. But merely telling you fact-check your responses next time before you post. T@NK has already once posted in detail the differences between PLA and Chinese Armed Police including their history. As Kingsix once said to me, "Lurk more, post less."

Short Round March 20th, 2011 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iskaryot (Post 1432542)
Negative, PLA =/= Chinese Armed Police. I was the one who posted that link several months ago. You're not helping... Nice try tho.


Edit: Allow me to clarify so you don't make similar mistakes in the future. All of my questions posed on ASC had been fed through google at least twice in different wording if not more, to no avail due to either lack of sources or the language barrier barring me from Chinese sites. It's quite laughable actually, when supposed "veterans" of ASC take to bait and try to troll me using facts that I already knew. Regarding this, I'm not sure if's a matter of me not being clear in the first place, or the second party not reading my posts properly. Quod erat demonstrandum by many of my conversations with various individuals in not just the China section, but even once in the Newbie Tank.

In any case, I'm not suggesting that you were trying flame me or being patronizing. But merely telling you fact-check your responses next time before you post. T@NK has already once posted in detail the differences between PLA and Chinese Armed Police including their history. As Kingsix once said to me, "Lurk more, post less."

Easy buddy. First off, why the hell would I troll a sub-form that I just asked to be cleaned up by admins? (Who do you think suggested deleting half the useless threads in this subform? yeah that was me).

Secondly I understand the whole CAPF and PLA situation. But the fact that whoever wrote the PLA pages on wikipedia still has not updated their data as of late as IE they consider CAPF to be apart of the PLA. Therefore I doubt some specific facts on wikipedia are completely true.

Honestly I wouldn't doubt that PLA Special Forces use the NR08 for specific missions though, as just like every other special forces around the world, their arsenal of firearms vary depending on the mission at hand. And because of the lack of info about the guns usage by the PLA that just could be a valid point.

Just a word of advice, everyone on here isn't trying to hate on you or anything, its just the fact that you ask so many questions about everything in this forum, and people become annoyed and get the wrong impression about you. However everyone was like that somewhere in their ASC life IE MEEEEEE look at some of my old posts, some people still know me as the noob who couldn't stop asking about P90s and ACU.

All I am saying is that lets try to keep the questions on topic period. Sort out your issues through PMs or somewhere not in the Chinese Sub-Form.

BTW the whole here comes the spoon is a sarcastic joke. Some people also use this http://lmgtfy.com/

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To get this thread more active I am quite interested on everyones FULL loadout. By this I mean just not your gear (BDUS, Vests, etc.) but your choice of weaponry aka your airsoft guns you use.

I know Kingsix & T@NK have really been the only two who have posted their entire loadouts up but I'd like to see everyone else's.

Feel free you two to still post up your still anyways, I want to see the new toys and gear you've got as of late

:^) March 21st, 2011 01:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Najohn (Post 1432611)
/rant

well said Nathan, well said

Like Najohn said, use google to find your question on airsoft and stuff related to airsoft it may take a wile but you well eventually find your answer. Most of the time it takes me around 6 google pages to find right the answer.

and btw Nathan i still look at you as a noob

Cifyra March 21st, 2011 03:27

@Najohn

I wasn't saying you were trying to troll me or anything, so lets leave it at that. Other people were, I'm not saying names but it's pretty obvious.

In other news, my PLA boots that I bought are 1. One size too large (not too bad) 2. Uncomfortable (when I bend my feet upwards, the back of the boots clip my heels) 3. Made of fake leather, got scratched, can't repair like leather, now looks ugly...
I'm not crying over a pair of $50 boots, but is there something better that I could wear for a long time, is more comfortable, and matches the PLA boots?
Allow me to re-word that, what do you wear with ur PLA loadouts, and do you have any personal recommendations?

I plan on uploading my load-out in the near future, but right now I just want my AV to pass through so I can buy some guns. Been waiting for 2 weeks, but I'm not in a rush since the RS97 Sniper hasn't been released yet. But if you're really curious, I got the ghillie cape thing in the mail half a month ago. With everything on, I kinda look like this without the helmet, the vest, and the gun. I also have a Type 07 cap, Beret, backpack, and heavy-duty raincoat.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...im/ghillie.jpg

I actually like the ghillie-cape thing quite a lot. I can wear it over everything including backpack + vest, and I can easily take it off if the situation calls for it. It breaks up my silhouette from a distance and looks cool if nothing else.

T@NK March 24th, 2011 14:46

photos from one the the recent Exhibi

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/e...49e72a712d.jpg

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/e...7602750bee.jpg

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/e...c2636a0b51.jpg

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/e..._jpg_thumb.jpg

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/e..._jpg_thumb.jpg

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/e..._jpg_thumb.jpg

Not like the 07 uniform stated as trainning dress (作训服), these were introduced as combat dress (作战服), looks like the helmet is for paratroopers, the panel at the back of the helm is for support jumpers neck so them won't get injured when the parachute opens . I am just guessing, could be wrong.

Cifyra March 24th, 2011 15:03

I want one lol... All I need now is a vest to complete my loadout and I'm looking for something post 2007, but never hurts to have more combat dresses
Are these available to civvies or like the 06, restricted from sales?

T@NK March 25th, 2011 23:31

A little bit something new of mine.

still missing the radio pouch, holster, double pistol mag pouch, but my supplier declares they are out of stock, so I guess I won't get them in a short period of time and decided to use some RG colour stuff on it. as for the holster I think I am going for SAFARILAND, one of my connections in the PLA told me they have those custom built safariland style holster for type 92 pistol.

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/e...k/DSC05658.jpg

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/e...k/DSC05656.jpg

faithless March 25th, 2011 23:47

Finally here, eh?

Nice kit. Now I want one too............

T@NK March 26th, 2011 00:38

ya, finally. we still have our combat cap and bonnie hats on their way. the chinese custom had held on them for a while.

Kingsix March 26th, 2011 00:45

Can't wait to wear something more updated than Type 65 :p

Cifyra March 26th, 2011 03:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by T@NK (Post 1436180)
A little bit something new of mine.

still missing the radio pouch, holster, double pistol mag pouch, but my supplier declares they are out of stock, so I guess I won't get them in a short period of time and decided to use some RG colour stuff on it. as for the holster I think I am going for SAFARILAND, one of my connections in the PLA told me they have those custom built safariland style holster for type 92 pistol.

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/e...k/DSC05658.jpg

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/e...k/DSC05656.jpg

Tank, mind giving us a photo showing the back?
I think more than half of us are willing to get our hands on one of this ;)
Really nice

Kingsix March 26th, 2011 03:16

http://www.royaltigergear.com/images/pla_02gearset4.jpg
I think tank told me that the vest is just the type 2 airborne vest done up in type 07 camo.

T@NK March 26th, 2011 10:49

Similar structure, but the panel is much smaller than the one on 02 vest, also got some molle stripe on it. I am still trying to figure it out what to attach on this panel.

THe_Silencer March 26th, 2011 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Najohn (Post 1432611)
However everyone was like that somewhere in their ASC life IE MEEEEEE

That's not true. I skipped my noob phase entirely cuz Im that awesome. And b/c of your extremely small stature Nathan, you'll always be a noob in my eyes. :)

Kingsix March 27th, 2011 01:50

Back on Topic with PLA loadouts

From Hong kong
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...98_5310152.jpg

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...99_3255906.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...865043_623.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...65049_2534.jpg

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...65031_6957.jpg

And Marines that came to retrieve their Downed blackhawk
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...c/7ad42f05.jpg

T@NK March 27th, 2011 17:05

Ken, where did you get those pics? wargameyau or Uwant?

Kingsix March 27th, 2011 17:13

Google

T@NK March 27th, 2011 21:32

haha, I was wondering if you read chinese, they were originally post on wargameyau and Uwants

kaiu March 27th, 2011 23:55

R.O.C. Loadout
 
Kingsix couldn't get the overall title renamed, but he said to put it here anyways, since it would save on cluttering of threads :P

Be aware my current setup is not accurate of course hehe.

Hopefully I'll be getting my T91 before Operation Rhino and maybe Zombie Game...

http://orbsidia.com/ROC/rocloadout.JPG

Cooney's photo during Udora game lol...
http://orbsidia.com/ROC/2.JPG

I am basically wearing:
- Real Issued BDU's & Helmet Cover
- Real Oakley Pilot Gloves
- Real Asian Fit Desert Locust with Fan :P (I should have went ESS, maybe in the future :P)

T@NK March 28th, 2011 01:16

get a real combat vest, thats gonna make you look better, the Taiwan army is switching to their new digital bdu right now, so shouldn't be too difficult to get the old woodland vest.

kaiu March 28th, 2011 07:18

Haha it's actually been pretty hard to find the main combat vest, apparently the surplus stores don't have them, and G&P did make replicas which are discontinued. The Desert version is being sold for really cheap though... I've asked a few friends to look for me haha since my Chinese isn't the best but yeah...
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8985/65999497.jpg
http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/...or&catid=&cat=
http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/...or&catid=&cat=

The one I got is the only one I could find in Taiwan ERDC Camo, as everything else seems to be only available in American Woodland too.

Gonna go with those other light vests eventually though for mobility like what this guy is wearing.... (I can get away with OD or Woodland :P)
http://www.orbsidia.com/ROC/t9108.jpg

Or hopefully I can get a cheap delta replica...
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3933/00021gn1.jpg

Then there is cheap body armour like this I will eventually get since it's around $26 before shipping (but need to get someone to bring it back :D)
http://store.pchome.com.tw/armygo/M00794367.htm
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2435/...4a8f5a9a3a.jpg

I have so far only found one place that sells the new digital bdus in Taiwan, but yeah pricey compared to their regular EDRC :P (I prefer the ERDC look more anyways)
http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/index.php/cPath/92/page/4 (They also sell WWII and PLA Stuff :D)

My other choice was to use the older setups... Just bought my H-Harness, gonna use current pouches for now, have to wait till I get a chance to go back or someone comes back to get some of those pouches or something.
http://www.orbsidia.com/ROC/hvest.png
http://www2.wbs.ne.jp/~camo0/tw-rp-web-1.jpg
http://www2.wbs.ne.jp/~camo0/tw-mc-web-1.jpg

Gato March 28th, 2011 14:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiu (Post 1437231)
Kingsix couldn't get the overall title renamed, but he said to put it here anyways, since it would save on cluttering of threads :P

Be aware my current setup is not accurate of course hehe.

Hopefully I'll be getting my T91 before Operation Rhino and maybe Zombie Game...

http://orbsidia.com/ROC/rocloadout.JPG

Cooney's photo during Udora game lol...
http://orbsidia.com/ROC/2.JPG

I am basically wearing:
- Real Issued BDU's & Helmet Cover
- Real Oakley Pilot Gloves
- Real Asian Fit Desert Locust with Fan :P (I should have went ESS, maybe in the future :P)

Heads up, those are Oakley SI Assault gloves :P

Chinese kit makes me shudder .... while not an issue for airsoft as much, there's CLEARLY a disregard for their troops wellbeing and survivability :P

Good kits though guys, keep it up!

Kingsix April 4th, 2011 10:30

Red Invasion! This time retro with the type 65 Uniform sets

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...g?t=1301927164
Type 56 Beauty shots

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...g?t=1301927103

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...g?t=1301927106

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...g?t=1301927112

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...g?t=1301927108
Man I got to find a source for puttees and Olive Green chi-coms.


http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...g?t=1301927113

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...g?t=1301927117

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...g?t=1301927120

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...g?t=1301927124

Cifyra April 4th, 2011 12:26

That AK74 mag looks a bit out of place.
BTW, I'm not sure why there aren't many SKS airsoft rifles being used in PLA-Red Army loadouts, since that's what most soldiers opt for even more so than Type 54 according to what I've read

Short Round April 4th, 2011 12:47

http://www.specialunits.eu/images/Ch...sep09%202).jpg

Look ken even SLCU are doing it. Precision is key ;)

I like china's mentality of looks before performance. That makes them e-lists

T@NK April 4th, 2011 12:47

That is not a 74 mag.

There isn't any SKS airsoft rifle on the market yet. they do have prototype but not in production.

Cifyra April 4th, 2011 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by T@NK (Post 1441648)
That is not a 74 mag.

There isn't any SKS airsoft rifle on the market yet. they do have prototype but not in production.

My bad, it just looks like a 74 mag with the brown plastic. I'd love an SKS airsoft rifle, hope it goes into production.

T@NK April 4th, 2011 14:41

http://www.m120.com.cn/data/attachme...5xj8ntjon7.jpg

Kingsix April 5th, 2011 01:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iskaryot (Post 1441631)
That AK74 mag looks a bit out of place.
BTW, I'm not sure why there aren't many SKS airsoft rifles being used in PLA-Red Army loadouts, since that's what most soldiers opt for even more so than Type 54 according to what I've read

Bakelite mag with a Curve is a AKM mag. AKM mags are backward compatible with 7.62x39mm round. A SKS Type 56 rifle was alot more commonplace in the PLA than the Type 56 assault rifle. Only Officers where armed with type 56 assault rifles. During the First Sino Vietnam war the PLA having donated the vast majority of their Type 56 assault rifles to the Vietnamese only had the Type 56 SKS to armed their troops. Having learned their lesson from the massive in-balance of firepower the PLA started to issue their troops with the Type 63/68 assault rifle and later on the Type 81. Interesting fact the Type 56 assault rifle is considered a Submachinegun in the PLA inventory. Man Tank I can't wait to get the Type 56 Semi automatic carbine looks like a interesting gun.

T@NK April 5th, 2011 01:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingsix (Post 1442104)
A SKS Type 56 rifle was alot more commonplace in the PLA than the Type 56 assault rifle. Only Officers where armed with type 56 assault rifles. During the First Sino Vietnam war the PLA having donated the vast majority of their Type 56 assault rifles to the Vietnamese only had the Type 56 SKS to armed their troops.

Not exactly ture, in the Sina-india war, the chinese army had already learned the importance of firepower combination of 56assult and 56semi. Right before the Sina-vietnam war, troops were issue with 8~9 56 assult rifles, 2 56 semi(sks) and 1 support weapon in each squad (11 men). 56 semi(sks) were mainly used as long range suppression weapon in Sina-vietnam war.

the photo of my previous post was a prototype of SKS AEG.

also, for morden PLA loadout, you can do this:

http://www.c2forum.net/attachment/20...8805579ONO.jpg

photo was taken in 2010 joint rehearse between China and Pakistan.

Short Round April 5th, 2011 02:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by T@NK (Post 1442109)


This is a first, I have never seen any photos of the PLA in the middle east till now

T@NK April 5th, 2011 11:31

Pakistan is not in mid east, it's an asian country.


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