Spring guide for we 1911
 

Will a guarder long spring guide and barrel bushing fit in my we 1911 meu? Heres the link. http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/...oducts_id=1363

WE can't take parts meant for Western Arms.

The answer is "almost."

The WA plug (that's a recoil spring plug, not a bushing) does fit in the WE, but it's slightly smaller (~ 0.5mm), so I'm not 100% how well it would sit. The old MGC plugs are actually an exact fit (but I doubt you could find one today). The WE recoil spring guides also just 'sit there', and the WA does fit.

However, even if it all fits correctly, that plug is meant to be used without a barrel bushing. Since the 1911s come with a straight barrel, you need the bushing to stabilize it. Otherwise you'd need to switch to a bull barrel (the ones with a cone-shaped muzzle) as well. Not sure which, if any, would fit the WE 1911.




Actually, the Western Arms bushings fit perfectly in WEs.

I stand corrected.

I have to admit it was surprising to say the least.

http://www.airsoftpost.com/replaceme...s-p-29957.html

Bushing you say?

They also have the Spring Recoil Plug. Sadly, I could not find the spring guide there.

Sadly it's on Evike, by far my least favorite retailer. I'd have to have run out of options before ordering from them again.

The bushing would also appear to be an OEM WE one, which means it'd be just as fragile as the one that comes on the gun. The made-for-Western-Arms ones are considerably more expensive, but they're usually steel or otherwise good quality metal and construction.

AirsoftGI also carries a few parts.

I bought the WA one, it didn't fit correctly; it sat about 3mm out from where it should've.

If you file down the spring guide 3-4mm, it would stop hitting the cap, which would reduce the stress on the bushing, thus making the stock one good enough, no?

BTW, it only took 1 week for the evike bushing to be shipped to atlantic Canada, and while the shipping was as much as the part, they were the only place that had it/could get it quickly.

Really? Which bushing did you get?

I've used both WA and real steel bushings on my WE (a Tactical and a Classic) and they fit just fine. (The real steel one will require slight modification for the barrel to fit correctly, however).



I suppose, but I'd rather get the better quality part in. Especially if the ring on the plug is busted off and the bushing is actually holding the plug in. If its just for show I guess it doesn't matter.



I've had an Evike order get here relatively quickly (even though it was the wrong part; it was one of those Magpul trigger guards, and I'd specifically asked if it was the airsoft or narrower real steel version, and they assured me it was the airsoft version. It turned out to be the RS version). A subsequent attempted order tuned into a ~6 week nightmare which only got resolved after both VISA and PayPal got involved.

The ridiculous shipping is a UPS issue (my least favorite shipper :P ), and unfortunately most US retailers insist on using them for international shipping. Dunno why, most other US companies agreed to ship via USPS when asked.

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Sorry I didnt mean to say barrel bushing lol what Im asking is if what is on the link in my first reply will that fit on my we?

That's what I replied to; I only corrected the terminology because you said bushing and the picture in the link was a guide and plug.

Even if it did fit, you'd still need to change the barrel.

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ok, but is there any long recoil rods I can get for the we?

ANY long recoil spring guide will require a different plug to allow the spring guide to pass through it; these plugs do NOT use the barrel bushing. A barrel bushing is REQUIRED for any straight barrel (which is what is in your gun now).

Therefor, ANY long recoil spring guide WILL require you to change your barrel to a bull barrel.

nope;) he can use this with the long recoil spring with a straight barrel and bushings
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...l?prodID=24752:D

But thats for TM 1911, it won't fit the WE. He's confused enough already, don't make my job harder :P (or find one for Western Arms/MGC :D )

it fits though oddly enough XD it just sticks out a little bit over the slide from what i recall. i personally run a bull barrel with a hollow guide rod housing myself now lol

You've used one of those on a WE?

Doesn't it have the TM-style rail on the bottom, which would prevent it from fitting?

Dude I'm confused lol I can I buy a WA or TM barrel, barrel bushing, spring guide, and a recoil spring plug then it will fit? Or do TM or WA outer barrels even fit in a we?

as far as bull barrels and chambers are concerned yes TM fits perfectly. now the spring plug(i have the hollow version) with the full length guide rod sticks out my wilson combat about 1mm from the end of the actual slide.

im not in Canada now so i cant take any pictures, but if you discard the bushing idea. all TM spring plug +chamber nd such would fit just fine. but if you want the one i showed you i cant promise it wont stick out 1mm like the hollow one on my wilson combat.

This is what i got for my Wilson Combat :
Shooters design
http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload.../SD-OBHY-L.jpg
http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload...OBHYBRID-L.jpg
Nova
http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload...P-H01-SS_L.jpg
http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload...P-D02-SS_L.jpg
+Airsoft surgeons 150+ spring set.

it runs flawlessly. im not sure if the hollow spring plug with the guide rod is suppose to stick out as opposed to this one:
http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload...P-D03-SS_L.jpg
but i would suggest asking redwolf or WGC to measure that one and compare the length to the one i use. if it is the same then u cant use it as the spring plug will stick out too much for the bushing to lock. but if u wanna run my setup then go for it. it works great and makes 80% of the slide wobble go away. :D

The stock TM plug (as well as the Guarder reinforced, and possibly others) have a rail under it, which does NOT fit the WE.

http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/m1911-05.jpg


Thats why I was curious about those NOVA ones. And if they were a correct drop-in fit.


You could also just buy a complete upper, like this:

http://www.airsoftpost.com/matrix-co...3160430c7f4228


Based on those comments, it sounds like a TM/WE HiCapa slide would be a drop-in fit on the WE 1911... anyone ever try? Any have both and wanna try?

I'm hoping on getting the 2 uppers on Evike when I get paid this coming Friday, will report in if they fit if I do.

dont need to try :D ill ask the WE guy tomo when i go pick up some backup magazine feed nubs. will keep you guys posted

Sweeeet.

I have put WE slides on TM and Vise versa. The TM slides have a small rail screwed inside the left side that needs to be removed. The Nova slides (for tm) do not use this part and are designed more like a Hi-capa slide internally. Both work fine on both guns. I have a Guarder TM 1911 slide mounted on a WE 1911 in my collection right now. For the most part, the slide & slide internals are TM 1911, but the internals of the frame are TM Hi-cappa, sears hammers etc.

what he ^ mostly said. the WE 1911 is actually based off the TM Hi-Capa, all round, however they made it fit into a WA frame. so the fitment is a little odd. now according to the WE guy he said yes the TM Hi-Capa Slides will fit, however he cant garantee it to run smoothly as the internals of the lower is placed alittle differently as far as ports being a little forward or backwards on the lower frame. so yes it will fit, as for if it will run well, thats depending on the tolerence of the internal fitments.

now i think i might buy a Hi-Capa compatible Kimber-ish slide to try it out lol...

OK cue the newb question...Won't the original internals fit a Hi Capa slide bypassing the issue or are those incompatible too?

Not sure, but my original thinking when I came across possible compatibility with TM/WE hicapa slides was that you could just drop on a quality slide+internals.

Not only for the long guide rod/bull barrel, but any of the large assortment made-for-hicapa slides, including classic 1911 type ones.

That would do away with any troublesome/unreliable/broken parts in the WE, and is a relatively easy and inexpensive solution since those parts aren't restricted.

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So I can buy a tm hi capa slide and all of my internals in my regular slide will fit? I thought that the we 1911 can we hi capa had different size barrels?

same barrels as far as Hi-capa and 1911s are concerned

I dont think I see the rail on this one, but they say its for the tm 1911 gov http://airsoftatlanta.com/images/NB_...OD_SET_jpg.jpg

you should be fine with that kit, just make sure of the length since it looks like ull be putting a bushing up front. i hope it doesnt stick an mm too far like my nova ones lol.

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cant you just sand it down a little bit. Im not familiar with that set does it come with that recoil spring or does it just show it in there?

the nineball set comes with watever is in that package. and as for sanding down the excess...its kinda hard when u have a full 1mm of material. plus ur not using a bull barrel setup so ull take a way the notch the bushing fits in. i suggest u ask before you buy.

but since it says its for the 1911 gov model it just might fit. maybe somone whos got a hi capa and 1911 can tell us if their spring plugs are actually different in length. if they are, that explains why mine sticks out a mm

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Will it fit with my stock barrel bushing though?

if it doesnt stick out then ya.

but I have to ask how long it is? How long should it be?

Is the we hicapa barrel considered a bull barrel?

if it doesnt use a bushing than yes

Ohhh, so the we hi capa barrel will fit if I dont use a bushing?

yes sir, thats wat i have. it eliminates ALL the problems with possible length issues with the guide rod housing

But cant you just use the regular barrel without a barrel bushing?

um yes...but ull see why... lol

hint: wobble wobble

Now im gonna have to invest in an outer barrel too lol Im probably just gonna be a regular we 5.1 barrel theyre only like 20 bucks. But whats the difference between the we barrels and the nineball barrels do the nineball ones just look better?

remem i run Shooter design barrels. i personally never seen a nineball barrel so i cant tell on the quality.

Oh, but what I meant was like a more expensive barrel like a shooters design, whats the difference between that and the we barrel, stainless?

stainless shiny finish. more like a brushed metal finish and its more eyecandy and feels better too + heavier i might add

Ah! Now I dont know what to decide, if I wasnt on such a tight budget Id definately get the nineball. I actually think Ill get the nineball just cuz I want a shiny finish:)

Reviving old thread but just to let people know i updated my review with the pics of the protruding spring guide+cap. go check it out http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=69544