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Kusco September 8th, 2008 23:22

Choosing High Quality Gun
 
Hello All,

I am finally age verified, and now I want to buy a gun, I have read the thread for beginners and have decided for now that I would like to buy a gun that is High Quality, Durability, Full Metal, Preferably something that I can use stock because I am still in my learning stages. I will perform my learning on a lower end gun, but I still want to have a good one for games.

I have read good things about ICS about the split mech or gear boxes.

I am open to suggestion (preferably a AK or M4 Model), My price range is around 800$ ish...

Thanks alot

Skladfin September 8th, 2008 23:24

Any V3 mechboxed guns.

NEVER BUY AN M4.

Muffin September 8th, 2008 23:24

I love G&P. They are delicious.

Muffin September 8th, 2008 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skladfin (Post 813467)
Any V3 mechboxed guns.

NEVER BUY AN M4.

Why not? Armalites are amazing. I know alot of people have complained how they like the V3 better but I don't find them that problematic.
However, the motor mounts on V3's are a nice touch.

Drache September 8th, 2008 23:30

I think armalites are some of the best for beginners. Easy to make external upgrades to, easy to find accessories, and easier to work on than say a CA M14 lol

Skladfin September 8th, 2008 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muffin (Post 813473)
Why not? Armalites are amazing. I know alot of people have complained how they like the V3 better but I don't find them that problematic.
However, the motor mounts on V3's are a nice touch.

If you've worked around all types of internals and guns, including V2 and V3 mechboxes you'll say the same thing as I do.

there's a reason why all gun docs reccomend V3 guns over V2 guns.

Conscript September 8th, 2008 23:37

Go on over to Mopic's website (www.mopicairsoft.ca) and look at the KWA AEG's. They come in two flavours at the moment, H&K G36 and some M4 Variants.

KWA is probobly the best brand to pick an AEG that you don't want to tinker with/don't need to tinker with, and that will perform absolutely flawlessly out of the box.

If you are adventurous and like to have some fun, go grab an Aftermath Kraken and build yourself a nice custom AK !

Kusco September 8th, 2008 23:46

Are those KWA's from www.mopicairsoft.ca full metal? and a question about the gearbox are they v2 or v3?

cbcsteve September 8th, 2008 23:49

I vouch for Tokyo Marui stuff although some are not full metal, their gearboxes are easy to tinker with, I opened it up, screwed it up (Gear teeth destroyed) and then learned to put it back together and it still worked fine.

If anything I find TM guns are quite noob tinkerer friendly since many aftermarket parts fit in nicely and usually you don't have to worry about changing anything with the gearbox

Yes V3 is pretty good, I busted the wires, soldered them back up, heat shrink wrap and then back to "Fwhip fwhip fwhip" at TTAC CQB and it won me a bag of BBs

So TM guns are a good choice, if you like to tinker, if you don't like to tinker then listen the dudes up above me

Conscript September 8th, 2008 23:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaiHong (Post 813497)
Are those KWA's from www.mopicairsoft.ca full metal? and a question about the gearbox are they v2 or v3?

The M4's are full metal, the G36 has a plastic body (Just like the real steel counterpart).

All airsoft AEG M4's in the world have V2 mechboxes, regardless of manufacturer. The same goes for all AK's, all of them have V3 mechboxes.

When buying a KWA, mechbox type doesn't really concern you, since you will never be opening up the mechbox anyways; the KWA's are built like tanks for people who don't want to tinker with the insides of the gun.

damage September 9th, 2008 00:10

I have been playing airsoft for awhile now and I sported armalite ever since. I have never ever have broken any ver.2 gearbox that I have used stock TM and reinforced. Then Sorbo pads came out I love them even more.

For my clients guns. I seen broken ver.2(common), ver.3 and ver.7 for the reason of mismatched parts or wrong combination of parts.

Kusco September 9th, 2008 02:34

Well I am leaning toward the KWA g36 for now and possibily a m4 or ak down the road.

......... I think I am going to end up spending every dollar i have on this sport, I have been to a game had a rental gun that was pretty good. it was shooting at 385-390 consistantly and accurately.

Now my question is, what is the best method of ordering. Is www.mopicairsoft.ca any good?

Drache September 9th, 2008 02:46

Mopic you can trust! Sometimes his communication can be extremely slow but never worry about getting your gun from him! I would trust him above all others!

TokyoSeven September 9th, 2008 07:08

Tsk tsk tsk, all the hating on the armalite.

My V2 has never given me any issues what so ever and its been though alot, to much actually and its still running strong with no signs of wear or creep.

If you want an armalite but your afraid of the big bad V2, get a PGC prowin mechbox. Now theres durability and quality! However its not something for someone who is just in the initial stages of airsoft.

The V2 isnt as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Well I should add an addendum to that statement, any non craptastic asian company cloned V2 is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be.

Cassius September 9th, 2008 08:37

Airsoft is primarily about the looks of the gun, performance and reliability comes after. If it was the opposite we'd all have ptw's.

Take a look at all the guns on Modern Firearms or some hong kong website such as redwolf and note the look and only the look of the gun you like.

Once you've done that, all you need to do is buy a "high quality" version of the gun you like.

When the brand is not shit, all guns work well stock, be it a V2 or V3 or a Vwhatever.

mopic September 9th, 2008 09:18

If you are not into tinkering on an expensive piece, you will like the KWA's. They have likley the most rugged stock mechbox out there. The performance is amazing, add a LIPO battery and you have a fire rate of over 25 bb's per second. All the KWA's are around 400 fps+ except fpr the new m4 battle rifle (440 fps+/-) and the m4cqb, just a hair over 375fps. Reliablility has been great. I have had only one mechbox failure reported on the ones I have sold. All the KWA M4's have a carry handle that can be removed to expose a Weaver rail, so adding optics is easy and cheap.

Kusco September 12th, 2008 22:23

sorry for brining up a old thread, but I am just about to buy a gun and i have 2 in mind.

It will be either a KWA g36c on the mopic's website for around 535$~ + batteries.
or
G&G AK-47 wood / full metal in the classifieds for around ~700$

Unsure which is the better deal?

Note:I LIKE THEM BOTH just as equally just looking for the better deal
bang for buck.

Conscript September 12th, 2008 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaiHong (Post 816655)
sorry for brining up a old thread, but I am just about to buy a gun and i have 2 in mind.

It will be either a KWA g36c on the mopic's website for around 535$~ + batteries.
or
G&G AK-47 wood / full metal in the classifieds for around ~700$

Unsure which is the better deal?

Note:I LIKE THEM BOTH just as equally just looking for the better deal
bang for buck.

KWA for sure, I think the rest of the boys will agree, unless the other one has a f*cking bulletproof mechbox.

Dusti69 September 12th, 2008 23:11

the d-boys kalash ak74u is full metal and will probably perform pretty well stock, and its v3. ive heard d-boys aeg's are pretty decent but their aftermarket products are not so much. i have one of their black v3's here. it shoots in the 390 to 400 fps range, though ive never had it opened yet i dunno whats all really inside but it would need some metal bushings. it has a smooth sounding noise when fired though ive noticed that when i add metal bushings to a gearbox the sound becomes more high pitched

you guys are making me wish i had the money to buy one of these KWA's. i hate worrying about crap breaking and wearing out. but then hey tinkering, upgrading, customizing, modding, and fixing stuff is half the fun of airsoft
Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 813711)
The V2 isnt as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Well I should add an addendum to that statement, any non craptastic asian company cloned V2 is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be.

what about jg's latest v2's? didnt you do a review on the jg 416? my jg 416 seems to have some pretty nice internals minus the generic everyday stock piston and piston head

namloot September 13th, 2008 00:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muffin (Post 813469)
I love G&P. They are delicious.

I second this. My son has a G&P M4 Marine and a G&P M16A3 both excellent AEGs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusti69 (Post 816671)
you guys are making me wish i had the money to buy one of these KWA's. i hate worrying about crap breaking and wearing out.

Besides their marketing, there is nothing special about KWA AEGs. Their use of some non standard parts is a big negative as far as I am concerned.

Dusti69 September 13th, 2008 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by namloot (Post 816704)
I second this. My son has a G&P M4 Marine and a G&P M16A3 both excellent AEGs.


Besides their marketing, there is nothing special about KWA AEGs. Their use of some non standard parts is a big negative as far as I am concerned.

G&P makes really nice aftermarket products also. i have so much G&P stuff that im really pleased with

and as for kwa these guys are saying their gearboxes are really tough, strong shooting, and wont need fixed and or fixed up. thats what interested me, not marketing

but does kwa make any aegs other than a g36, m4's, and some pistols? thats all i could find on ebay.
i already have 2 ak's, three m types, and 2 g36 variants in my house. if i ever get another aeg it wont be any more of those types

oh and to the starter of this thread... look up VFC ak's. the vfc ak's ive seen are very pretty


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