The Aftermath Broxa Experience
 

I am about 70% sure I may get this one as a backup not a primary, although has anyone bought this yet and have owned for a couple months now?

Oh and does anyone know the mag compatibility

I fielded my broxa today. I fired great. Used teh HIgh cap that came with it as I had some sticking issues with the 90 round mags I bought. Need to lube them and run the springs a bit. Seemed to catch BB's an not allow for a good feed. Other than that it performed great.

I too fielded mine today and it was great. Fed no problem same mags as Multitech... Got em from eHobbyAsia (Pack of 8 for 35.00 USD + Sh.. very good mags. Are ABS black Plastic. solid shooting never missfired.

When you get it put some Silicone up the loader... and lube the mags... all in all a great gun...

have any of you actually chronoed it yet? I've just ordered mine and id be interested to know if it shoots as hot as they say it does

Chrono was there this weekend but I did not get to it. next scrim i will try

I'm planning on doing the coke can chrono this week. Will post the results. I've also just painted the clear sections on my Broxa. Looks great. I'll see if I can get some pics this week as well.

I did the microphone/laptop chrono and it came in at 384 fps consistently, in semi and in full auto.

Took apart the entire gun to paint it, and reaasembled with not one piece left over- the first time! Also this is the first time I've ever opened up an AEG. I'm still quite a noob, but if I can take it apart and put it back together like that I think it may be a recommended starter/loaner gun.

I'm not an expert by any means on the internals, but the metal gearbox says "CM.03" on it which I think means it is a CYMA gearbox

Painted fully black it looks pretty good, especially with more accessories on the rail. I love the weight of the gun too.

Shoots fairly straight with .2's but I'm waiting for some .28 BB's to do some better targeting tests.

lol cyma is shite

lol Beggars can't be choosers.

There used to be a beggar downtown who would leave behind a pile of coins that he didn't want whenever he left his spot for the day. So yes, yes they can be choosers.

Wow troll posters who like to increase their post count

I will give you all a "Golf clap" hurrah

Like you?:banghead:

Thread Degenerating <Danger> <Danger> Pull up, Pull up...

this thread was about the Broxa and once some people get in here with their one liner "Shite" fetish posts all hell breaks loose)

Thought I'd post some pics; if I knew more about AEG's in general I'd post a detailed review.
The flashlights I've added; I'm waiting for some mags and an RDS from uncompany.com, and I hope to game it soon.
When I have some time I hope to paint on the proper H&K bullet symbols.

Links Fixed

AAARRRGGH!! I can't get the pictures to display full size, now I'm stuck with the little thumbnails. Hope everybody can see it OK.

Can't view pics...

I meet this beggar on a YRT Bus one day and holy fuck did that guy make more than me and the bus driver combined on one day, he even had a pension from working with the TTC. careful who you give your spare change too.

Last time I checked, this thread was supposed to be about the Aftermath Broxa!

Anyone tested the accuracy on the Broxa? I'm still waiting for some BB's.

Also, please submit your Chrono results so we can compare. (I don't know how accurate my laptop tests were; but it's supposed to be quite accurate).

How did you take the trigger handle (motor handle) apart from the receiver?

whre are you picking them up?
 

where are people getting them from? Bass pro?

yup pre-order one or just get it ordered from the Bass Pro American shop online it will get through customs since it is clear

Check out the MP5 disassembly on MECHBOX.com. That's what I used. And even more importantly they have a reassembly VID!!!

Once you get the motor out, there are two screws in the top of the handle that attach it to the receiver.

Just take your time and think eveything through or else you'll start breaking stuff.

-Yup- Bass Pro. I was lucky to get mine in-store. I suggest order it online from their web site- no one's ever had anything seized from them.

I've had mine for a few months now. It turned in my main gun while my TM Sig went to hell (don't ask). I've easily placed a good 3000 rounds into the thing and I'm extremely impressed. Best paint to your is Krylon Camo (sticks to metal and plastic in under 15 minutes without a chalky feeling). So far I've verified an average of 385 fps with high grade .20s and and the has no internal issues. One problem I found is the back butt plate came crazy glued otgether for some reason? Battery is amazing for the price of the gun included. Honestly you can't go wrong if you are looking for a mid grade gun. Accuracy is like 8/10 in my opinion too. I'll post some picutres tonight when I have the time for the paint job.

I'd also have to agree with etd, although the batteries that come with Aftermath products are Ni-Cad, they perform really well, and there shouldn't be a reason to purchase a battery unless its a spare.

Oh and get a good charger too, that's all the difference.

I run a 8.4 3400MAh battery with my Broxa and it goes like stink. no problems with jams... shoots nice and straight. I put a 3-9 x54 scope on mine and well I put a can at one end of my yard about 105 feet away and took a prone position at the other end of the yard cracked off 1 shot and said good by to the can. put a good sized dent in it...

Shot a .2 bb at a spray can lid and put a hole in the lid from 50 feet so not too shabby.

very stable gun for an entry level...

niceeeee, still gotta bit of a shine thought, when it comes to paint i have tried to many to even keep track and the best stuff yet is a kyrlon camo ultra flat, they come in like 3 or 4 different dark colors that have no shine what so ever really really light absorbant surface finish for those who are interested it look like this.. look for that stuff on a canadian tire shelf, really shitty in terms of scratch resistance if ur a stubborn person, the suggested dry time is 6 to 7 days after 6 to 7 days of no use it will be part of the plastic if u really wanna get it off the only way to do it is with sandpaper even knives have a hard time scrapping it off, if u let dry for an hour like i did the first time i used it it smoothed the surface finish when i used my pistol holster constantly and left a bit of a shine (kinda like the one that Buzzrexx has), after recoating and letting sit for 5 days (i know.. am stubborn :P) it gave me the "ultr-flat" finish and remained that way.

look for the same can but the newely mixed batch from krylon has a slightly more dull color can, the brighter color camo (older) cans still have a slight shine to them, the new stuff is just amazing.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/include/p...=1227651486868

I just got my broxa today. Out of the box it feels very solid no shaky parts what so ever. The battery fits nicely on the stock with no rattling sounds. I tested 90 round mid cap and a 560 round hi-cap and both fed nicely. I didn't test the stock magazine that came with it because it looks ugly but will test it tomorrow. I got fluctuations from low 355 fps to as high as 390 fps tested with velocityarms .2g bbs. ROF is around 600-650 rpm with its stock battery.

Pros:
- very solid nice even weight distribution
- good ROF out of the box with high fps
- has a lot of rails to mount accessories
- good price under $200 :D

Cons:
- Vertgrip is flimsy
- hop up is poor quality
- selector switch is not smooth
- stock is made of cheap plastic
- double orange tip :(

Overall this gun is a great gun for beginners who would want to get into airsoft. In comparison to kraken or lycaon, its definitely better than the lycaon but I have to say kraken is still the best aftermath aeg.

Carl

Woah its been awhile since I remembered I created this thread hahah

Thanks Carl

I think you should post it up in the Review section as I found it helpful short and sweet :D

thanks steve, I will use this gun until it breaks (or if it breaks). the spring is definitely close to an m110 or 120 and too hot for indoors. Surprisingly, it shoots much stronger than the kraken in spite of its short barrel.

It won't break that easily actually, heck you may have to TRY to break it, there were Youtube videos of it being torture tested and it held its own

The last torture test it should go through is dropping it in sand or gaming it in the rain, my TM P90 went through both and its still alive yay!

not too great in cold weather my stock nicd batt died almost immediatly and confirmed at 360 fps with bastard .20's other than that i havent really got a chance to feild it and once i get around to takin it apart ill take pics and do a review

Used mine recently in a skirmish in -8 to -10 Celsius temperatures. Heavy auto-fire around 2000 rounds and the battery lasted a good 4- 5 hours. Try putting one of those chemical handwarmers into the stock in cold weather it really made a difference. BTW I recently purchased a 9.6 V battery for this gun and I haven't gotten a chance to use it, I havent upgraded my gun at all do you think it is possible to damage the gun with a 9.6 V battery?

Wouldn't this gun disassemble the same as would any TM MP5 series?

As for hop-up unit quality - the TM MP5's have issues out of the box as well, so don't discredit as 'cheapness', rather think of it as 'inherited quality'...hah...

Honestly though I thought this thread was about a movie or documentary or something...

what would you guys reccomend this or a kraken?

If the choice is this or the Kraken, popular opinion seems to lean towards the Kraken. They both have fairly good reviews but the Kraken has more compatable and easier to get parts and functions alittle better. I personally have a Kraken as a loaner/backup/project gun and it works good, no problems with it so far.

Kuro_Neko

i think this has already been answered but what type of mags does the broxa take and what are the prices like??and does anyone know where it gets shipped from for alantic canada?

my broxa takes TM,MAG, and other china clone mags. Though the hopup is the worst.

Buy one from Bass pro shops in the US (don't worry about customs, everyone I know of has gotten them fine because it's a clear receiver) or get it from airgunsource.com- they are out of Peterborough, ON

I got some metal CA mags- they work sweet; or just get the cheap bulk packs of plastic mags that UNcompany has, though they might need a bit of lube.

This gun is real easy to take apart and change parts. Mine worked great in -8/ -10 weather; ditto on the hand warmers- used it all day with no problems. Expect to see a lot more of these out there in the next while, it's a great alternative to the Kraken, for those who hate the looks of AK's

On the hop-up, this seems to be the only issue I've heard about- if you want a really good gun, plan on replacing it and putting in a tightbore. The internals are pretty tough for stock- just search around on YouTube for a guy named 'Killbucket" who tries to break it by firing it continually for like 3 minutes straight.

There's a retailer in the classifieds that sells these (I won't say who here in the open forum but he's not hard to find if you're age verified), better there then Bass Pro, shipping from the States is murder.

As far as I know the Broxa takes regular mp5 mags. Plastic Star mags are one of the easiest types to get and they're pretty cheap at $3 to $5 a mag, or if you're on a budget (and don't mind rattling) you can get a metal hicap for like $15 which would give you about the same amount of ammo as 10 Star realcaps, though the gun comes with a decent hicap (though clear and plastic). For those with money to burn you can get metal mags for $15 to $25 each, though if you have that kind of money to burn then why get a Broxa.

Kuro_Neko

Actully the easiest place to get this gun is probably from Frank at www.velocityarms.ca

hes situated in Toronto no need for customs check plus the shipping is all INCLUDED for any item on his website

Yeah it sounds like an advertisement for him:S lol but i just like what hes trying to do for airsoft and hes got pretty decent prices....

I would have said the same thing but Velocity Arms is the way to go

And pick up some of their Velocity Arms BBs while you are at it

Yup already boguht a 6pack bbs so 12 000 BBs (witch are made by KSC if im right correct me if im wrong )

and i bought some extra mags for my friends jg m4a1

bought bbs for contest:D and as a xmas gift to my friend lol he lends me it. ill probably end up shooting 10 000 of the rounds... :D

+1, though I'm a BB Bastard man myself.

Velocity Arms was the retailer I was referring to. I didn't know he had a separate web site though.

Kuro_Neko

On the website almost all of Velocity Arm's magazines are high-caps. This makes me sad :(

With the exception of mags with fake bullets, mags aren't restricted so you can get them anywhere. Yeah, shipping is murder but such is life, at least they're obtainable. MP5's are pretty common and thus so are the mags, so you can usually get low and realcaps in the classifieds for decent prices fairly easily.

Kuro_Neko

Cant go to classifieds so i cant give you a +1 :D lol but yeah look around in canadian retailers websites and your gonna find plenty


EDIT: he carrys mostly hicaps due o the fact that more of the "Noobs" like them because you dont have to change all the time just wind it thats the primairy fact and hes getting a bigger inventory and wider selection almost each month... lol

Yea, true. My primary is a G36 though and I like the 50-round mags (which all have fake rounds). Ah well, such is the life of a Canadian Airsofter.

That's true too. I kindof wish ASC went back to discouraging high-caps like it used to. I have nothing wrong with a new gun coming with a highcap (since you only get 1 mag, might as well be one you can use), but I get annoyed when I go to games and n00bs have two G36 or AK highcaps clamped together.

You could get one of the US ASC members to order them for you, spray paint them black and then mail them to you. That might get through the boarder. *shrug* It's worth looking into.

I completely agree about hicaps. I'm a realcap man and there's nothing more frustrating to get pinned down by a weedwacker spraying 300 continous rounds at you.

Kuro_Neko

so back to the subjet is the broxa anygood for longterm reliability? because that mgiht be my first actual aeg when i get 18 and i dont wanna spend 600 bucks for a style of gun i wont like lol

Well, it will need some preventative maintenance. A $300 gun won't last as long as a $600 one. Also, the $600 one will have a much higher re-sale value if you don't like it, so if you buy a $600 AEG, play a few games and decide you really don't like it, you can still get back nearly all of your investment. The same does not hold true for a gun like the broxa.

is there some reason the velocity arms broxa seems more expensive to me?did i miss something silly like the exchange rate or something?why is v.a`s price like 30$$ more.i know shipping is free but i got to be missing something!its not the exact same gun (by looks)so is that it?? maybe i am having a stupid moment?!!?!?

Shipping included in the cost? :)

There's probably several reasons. If you're comparing to Bass Pro then there is the exchange rate to consider. Also, shipping. Also, He's smaller then other places and thus probably doesn't get as large a discount for ordering in bulk if any discount at all. Ordering from Bass Pro, you're going to lose more then $30 in shipping, discounting everything else.

So all in all, there's probably no difference in ordering from one or the other. There's also the fact that Velocity Arms is in the Country and is a trusted name so you're garenteed to get it and in a timely matter.

Kuro_Neko

yes ive already dealed with frank a V.A. for bbs witch are exellent made by ksc

And yes every SINGLE item on his website has included shipping costs just pay the tax and thats it plus hes in toronto its quick shipping he usually ships when he gets home from his full time job so theres no waiting 48 hours really...

broxa bushings
 

what metal bushings what size and where should I buy them for this gun?Thanks.

you can probably buy them here (ill give you direct link) http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...1&keyword=bush

as to size i have no clue and i would like to know how you can figure that out without actully physically mesuring yourself

You'll need 6mm bushings for that Broxa.

how do you figure out witch gun needs what bushing size and witch would be best? ex. double oil groove bearing or w/e

I have total faith in your knowledge of this subject and in fact have already ordered 6 mm bushings for my broxa but I was wondering why the V2 gearboxes on airsoftparts.ca are listed as 7mm (does this designate bushing size?) as I was under the impression that the broxa uses a V2 gearbox.

Nevermind I just realized that the V2 gearboxes come with various sized bearings, still learning ;)

yeah ive got lots to learn too :D

how are you painting the H&K bullet symbols as I wantesd to do the same but dont know how.Freehand?

if this is a mauri clone is the receiver compatible??? i wanna replace mine

Yes

That's pretty convincing.
Once painted correcly, it might be a cheap, reliable backup gun.

How's the QC on the broxa like?

yup and the best part is someone whos afraid to do some work on a aeg, get familiar with V2 its cheap and if you fed it up, WHO CARES! its only 180 ish shipping and taxes included

its a perfect "starter" gun for someone who wants to try and do some mods without freggin up there 400+$ guns, but thats IMO

I still disagree that cheap clone guns are "good starter guns." I say start with something you can play with for a season or two and KNOW you will have zero issues with. Then get a clone if you want a project gun.

no, no and no you got me all wrong, start with maybe a good clone midish class G&G JG or whatever you want, what i ment its a good starter gun for someone who starts to do some mod work, so they do not have to open there 400 bucks guns and fuck it up, if its just a broxa or w-e who cares you paid nothign for it.

i dint mean your FIRST gun overall just the first gun to try and make mods or practice shim jobs etc, sorry if i have confused you

Ah, I get it. A good project gun. That's been established.

Im happy you understood and agreed :D fianlly some knowlegeful guy actually tells me ah good idea, Lmao:rolleyes:

Mag Release Failure
 

I have had a broxa for 30 days, used maybe five or six times for a total of about 2000 BBs through it. Two days ago the mag release broke off under one finger pressure. I am returning it to Cabelas to see if their return policy really works. Function has been good, durability less so!

Cheers all!

Same here. No big deal though you just push the release from the right side and it works fine. If you only pay $180 for it, it can't be all good. Something has to be cheep. We couldn't have them competing with TM now, not with that price.

I upgraded mine to a tight bore with a 100 spring and a lipo. I'll game it this Sat and see how it goes.

Thats right. I did that to make a setup for CQB (under 350fps). I think the Li-Po will increase the fps a bit though.
I'll see if anyone has a chrony I can use at the game and let you know.

A lipo will increase rate of fire.. it won't do anything to the FPS.

You're right it wont. The physics part of my noggin must have been on break.

well mine is 352 with .25's and consistant now that i dropped a new hopup and barrel in it oh yeah and replaced all the clear parts with better ones

Someone (sorry can't remember his name) had a chrony today.
The chrony said a very consistent 253 - 256 fps with a .28g BB.
It was also -10 degrees out and the gun was cold so some loss of fps there.
Somewhere in this forum it says the conversion for fps with .20 and .28g BBs. I to lazy and tired to look it up now though.

Probably about 290.

Sha Do brought the chrony.

Mine still has the stock spring, but a whole bunch of upgraded mechbox parts, including steel tooth piston, metal piston & cylinder head, plus the sorbo pad & metal bushings & shims. I also put in an M4 tightbore barrel and cylinder. (A custom supressor covers the extra 6 inches of barrel length.

Anyway, now I've got awesome range & accuracy, bang on with my red dot every time, so = more kills.

Chronied at 353 consistently, don't know if the -10 C has any affect, though.

BTW, thanks to Huang, Jugglez, , Llotech, Schwag, and Hectic for all the parts/ advice. Even though I'm still a noob, I think I can consider myself a "good" noob! (or at least a half-assed one, LOL)

You're not using those in the gun are you?

will these mags work for the broxa?
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Jing-Gong-Tactica...3286.m63.l1177

yes they should work

ok thanks
cause i am most likely going to buy a few of them

Not a fan of highcaps myself.. but to each their own I guess.

If you'd done a bit of research on your own, you'd know King Arms makes TM compatiable magazines, and we've already told you the Broxa is TM compatable.

We're not here to spoon-feed you.

mp5 broxa evolution
 

YouTube - Aftermath Broxa torture continues
this is for evryone that didnt know this gun so far.....
i own this gun last month i did already shoot about 20 000rds with
no problem except the stock mags which is very cheep
but i buy some hi n low cap mags from velocityarms and it run great
just dont think about uses of .23 .25 .28 or higher bb's beacause the accuracy is not verry good with .20 bb's wow
heavy weight , rate of fire great , feel nice , when paited look cool (4 rails to fill up with cool stuff , i recomend this gun to every one who want to have a cheep but efective gun for the price .
for 250$ cad im very very satisfied .

Took my broxa to salvation yesterday to chrony it came in at 380 fps with .25 consistently over 15 rounds. not bad for a backup

That's pretty close to the 400 limit by AEGs. Is the gun new? Spring might not have settled yet.

Sorry for the long time for response Kalnaren just been to busy and to tired. Not that old to me its about 10 months old. Been fielded once a month and more when it isn't to cold out. No problems what so ever yet seems to be a great gun. Had it Chronied this weekend at TWAT and again 380 fps average with .25 over 30 rounds and peaked at 397 fps twice over 30 rounds with .20 not to shabby

I'd be thinking about downgrading that spring.

now that you mention it i have been thinking about doing just that. I actually want to swap the spring with the one in my TM M4 which is around 330 - 340 fps. I want to use the Broxa as a backup indoor gun and use my M4 as an outdoor just haven't found anyone with the time to swap them for me and upgrade some of the parts in the broxa while its open. I don't know why mine fires so hot compared to others but hopefully its not damaging to much being as strong as it is.

my kraken eats broxas for breakfast

Until it explodes...

when life gets you down start kraken :P

mabie you got the rare few that actualy work like its suppose to be no flaw

that looks decent!

!!!
 

interesant note that the kraken gearbox
is nearly the same as the broxa....
build by the same compagni too...

Um... no. A version 2 mechbox is not like a version 3 mechbox.

All i can say about the aftermath product is as long as they exist i will make money fixing them lol.

i know that its not the same gearbox v2 to v3 but an aftermath vs an aftermath
same thing as to compare a g&g to an g&g

those two aeg is from the same construtor build whith the same material etc..
same quality inspection etc.... that what im talking about!