ITW fastmag system
 

Hey this looks neat. What do you guys think?

YouTube - ITW Military Products: FAST MAG Demo

It's a little bulky, but it's a good idea.

Another solution looking for a problem. As someone who designs and build kit, I can tell you right now that it's fucking retarded.

What benefit does it provide over conventional mag pouches? If anything, it detracts. It takes up the spot a regular double mag pouch can occupy, and it only holds ONE MAG. It's open-topped, which is a no-go for sandy or dirty environments. Fully half your mag is exposed, and those were airsoft mags. AR mags are fully an inch longer than the AS equivalents.

Also, that guy bugs me. He's gotta be 4 feet tall...look at how big those mag pouches look on his plate carrier. Also note his gear is squeeky clean, so it's never seen much more than the basement he films in.

And lastly, if you're demoing a product, don't use airsoft to do it. Put a loaded 30 round mag in there so you can show how it reacts with the weight of a full-sized, fully loaded magazine.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zd_mTonRIU

This seems nicer.

I played with one at CANSEC last year when I met with the rep for ITW. It works quite well however it is also quite large.

It is very well built and works just like it's designed however my though was a shingle can do the same thing with less space.

I dont like how theres only a shock cord in certain scenarios, especially when upside down.
I know he jumped around and stuff but I still dont like it.

+1. The dude looks and sounds retarded to boot.
I just shot on the ranges today at work, in the rain. That thing would completely screw a mag if used in the prone position. Unless you like shooting mud at people. Takes up some serious acreage too. The issued CF tac vest, which I don't enjoy, works a lot better than that thing. It would also be broken in record time in arctic conditions. Just ask anyone who ever used the old Diemaco mags. The only thing I could see it being useful for is some sort of specialized match competition.

i think their intentions were cqb doorkickin steez but eagle already has a 50 times better pouch that takes up less space

man, that was the best video i have seen in a long time. classic.

I saw that too but can't find any info on it...

i couldnt take any of those videos seriously...especially with the midget hopping around like he did too much speed.

http://www.tacticaltailor.com/index....ROD&ProdID=336
It's good if your only planning on carrying 4 mags, but its WAY too bulky, and I can't see it being faster to use than a triple mag pouch with ranger plate magpuls.

A few things.
Milspec Monkey is not and never was a soldier. He worked on the development of the video game America's Army, and is well known on a few U.S. based warfare forums, but that is about it.
The pouch itself is appears too large for what it offers, though I think they could improve it by adding PALS to the outside. The solid polymer would probably be much more supportive to pouches attached to the exterior than any empty nylon shingle.
There are communities that could benefit from a product, though the active U.S. military is probably not going to be one of them. Race shooters and LEO / SWAT types will likely find this product to be more useable, as their equipment is often exposed to cleaner environments for much less extend periods of time. High speed reloading and low ammo requirements are a few other reasons why this product would be useful to them.
All feedback that I've ever heard from the active U.S. military community has led me to belive that storing magazines in anything other than pouches mounted in the upright position in a combat environment is just asking for trouble (this is why the BALCS armor carrier was so rarely seen with pouches actually mounted on it outside of training). As I said, Milspec Monkey was never really exposed to combat in the way other soldiers might be, so I'm not completely sold on the idea of mounting these things upsidown.
Attaching these pouches to a vest strikes me as a waste of space. I think having them on a belt, or even a low profile drop leg rig would be a much better place for them.

Much like Camelbak's delta 5 vest, this product strikes me as something that would have been much more successful if it was released 5-10 years ago. Kydex and polymer magazine holders have existed for a while, and Eagle Industries has successfully adapted them to PALS equipment some time ago.
Anyway, those are my thoughts on the subject.

true dat homie
but if you are gonna put somehtingthat huge anywhere on you why wouldnt you just use bladetach or eagle... they take up nearly half the space.

Exactly, other companies have been doing it better for longer.

there is way too much stuff on this thing though oculd break too. they should just call back all they sent out and burn them

Dayum wish I could be cool like Wey Ferro....

Till then, I guess I'll have to stick to being retarded.
YouTube - ITW FASTMAG GEN2 Grip Test

milspec monkey that is a very cool video! I love it!

+1 that was a kinda decent necro in my book

i did get quite a chuckle tho when i read milspecs post which is then followed by a video of him bouncing around lol

im not sure how well it would work in combat but i will leave that decision to those who have experianced it

As long as nobody dies as a result of your reviews, I could care less what your background is or isn't.

I haven't seen anything reviewed that I wouldn't have rated the same way. Fair is fair though, you do look like a midget in some of those chest rigs.

FYI - Fastmag ain't made for Ninjas. Clearly.

Why such animosity towards him? I dont think he has done anything wrong but review things for people to potentially buy.

Some people just need to take a chill pill sometimes.

Aye I am but a wee man:

http://www.djmonkeyboy.com/milspecmo...nkey-size1.jpg

I don't mind if people think I am a dork, but I don't want any confusion that my goals are to aid those who serve our country and our allies.

http://www.milspecmonkey.com/about.html

Kudos.

It's nice to see decent quality gear reviews...

Milspec monkey is teh man.

Your flailing is amazing. I thought you should know...

I have to say one thing, at least he has lots of energy and enthusiasm in his product reviews. Most youtube reviews you see it sounds like the guy is about to drop of boredom. It goes a long way to showing that you actually care.

Also I was looking at some pictures on that site and found this one, is that air force, or some part of the army? I know it's not airsoft because for one there is a helicopter there, and two there are live rounds in the womens mag. Anyone know who these guys are?

http://www.milspecmonkey.com/patches/IMG_0220m.jpg
http://www.milspecmonkey.com/patches/IMG_0223m.jpg

ITW has changed the design since my last post in this thread and the new one takes up the same room as a single shingle.

We should have them in stock shortly.

I dunno. Being someone from outside the military and hearing this rumor and that rumor etc. from armychair quarterbacks, I'd assume that from what I've heard about special forces operators apparently being allowed to pick and choose their own weapons, I'd assume that they'd be given some of the same freedoms when it comes to gear, unless of course these were just extras hanging out during a movie shoot somewhere.

I'm just basing that guess on the fact that the guy on the left looks like a cross between FutureWeapons and a walking advertisement for Blackhawk (nothing says hardcore operator more than having some company brand name "BLACKHAWK" in full view on your LBV... "Run Aziz! The Americans are attacking us with marketing!"). The bearded guy on the right doesn't look like he could do too many pull ups and his posture's pretty slouchy. The chick in the middle's kinda cute, but hey when you're new to being in your thirties, your standards start going down hill. The guy on the right actually looks convincing enough until you get down to his stylish black workboots, but I'm not sure about the guy on the far right with the baseball cap because his push to talk mic is clipped in to his chest rig pretty low.

So if I were to guess, I would say they're probably extras or actors posing on a movie set during time between shoots.

Guy on the far right has his LBV a little too low, no?

And are these guys actually SOF, cause I don't see any unit tags anywhere.

No, you're supposed to wear it on your hips. That's an ISAAK or similar, not a chest rig.

Many units don't wear any kind of distinguishing uniform items unless in garrision or working with other forces.

Gotcha.

Where does it say BlackHawk? I can't see that, unless you're using a microscope or something.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ckhawkVest.jpg

I dunno, I'm probably being too picky; but that's probably the reason I'll never take Blackhawk as seriously as their marketting says they are. I'm not slagging airsoft users for using Blackhawk gear. If it gets you through your day and works for you in the field, then hey more power to ya.

I've just never liked them 'cause If I was an American, I'd be deterred from ever joining the forces because I know I'd have to work with some operators wearing their gear at some point and I couldn't take my job seriously, knowing that if I was ever kitted out with their gear, I'd feel like a walking advertisement.

Last I checked, things like patrolling, serving warrants and combatting the enemy had absolutely nothing to do with marketting and being used in a round about way to market a company's product with logo's all over it.

Like I said though, if it works for you, then cool that's your thing and that's your preference, it's all good. I'm just basically saying that it doesn't work for me and my interests.

Ok I agree with you that they don't quite looks like hardened SF Warriors. However wouldn't actors be using blanks in their weapons? Because If you look at this picture those rounds defiantly don't look like blanks, to me anyways...
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7165/closeupsd4.jpg

Also that weapon looks like it has actually been used. I don't think many movies would take that much time to make an extras weapon look that weathered. However in saying that her gear looks brand new. So I really have no clue.

That's true. Maybe they're private security contractors?

only if you want to be labelled as a cheat in your region of airsoft....

Wey Ferro i haven't seen you at a game for a while........... oh ya that's because you have been banned........ HAHA, call your hits

so i assume you could do a better job showing how well the fast mag holds a mag in place then?

cheers
bowers

The ghey is strong in this thread.

Trash-hammer is hovering.....hovering.....standing by.

The fastmags are retarded. Why not use a kydex single mag pouch that does the exact same thing, with much less bulk...

i don't like fastmags .. they take to much space for ONE mag

Although the thread is now completely off topic, to clear up the photo, when submitted I was told they are a PJ unit, the girl being a pilot.

Yep and it's pretty well done for the purpose it is intended to be.

Actually, the only thing that make me laugh is the crappy wannabe ghetto style thug that you use as avatar. Every time I look at that pics I have a mixed feeling of hilarity and pity. :lol:

And who the fuck are you supposed to be?

aaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnddddddddd already on clearance at optac for a whopping 30 USD