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huang September 15th, 2007 18:04

Dboy's AK74U - ACM Gun of the year?
 
http://www.dragonredairsoft.com/airsoft/images/74.jpg

Wood frontset, steel body. steel flash hider, steel sight

Penguin September 15th, 2007 18:18

how much :|

surebet September 15th, 2007 18:19

Probably not that much...

ancorp September 15th, 2007 18:35

Around 100-120 USD.

:( :( :(

I also hear good things about the upcoming Unicork AKS-74U. All steel/wood. Has a more proper color on the pistol grip too.

http://www.russianmaniaworkshop.com/...AKS74UCG&cat=6

$135 US at RussianmaniaWorkshop.

O, Canada!

:(

Kokanee September 15th, 2007 19:05

w/ the current situtation regarding the limited amount of importers, that will be jacked up to $450-$500 easy. But still a pretty good deal considering it's all metal, assuming that the internals are decent. Dboys has also released the AK74SU under the "Kalash" brand name, perhaps signaling that they want to seperate this product from their main brand name. Whether it because the product itself is subpar, or much much better than usual for them, necessitating the brand spinoff remains to be seen.

Ref the unicorn; I've seen the unicorn eotech 552 replica and the QC on it was complete bullocks - so I don't have alot of faith in their ability to build a complete AEG that is reliable at this time.

ancorp September 15th, 2007 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kokanee (Post 537265)
...But still a pretty good deal considering it's all metal...

Steel, not just "monkey metal" like many all metal guns. It can be blued, and you can club people with it with more confidence.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kokanee (Post 537265)
w/ the current situtation regarding the limited amount of importers, that will be jacked up to $450-$500 easy...

Not too long ago the ASC Armoury had TM AKs for that price, and those things go for double the price of these. I bet they could have had these for about $300-350. :(

Ronan September 15th, 2007 19:45

Man i want a AK74 now... between this little sexy thing and the CA all steel one.... mmm

Lakonian September 15th, 2007 19:54

I'd sell my G36 for this. Without a doubt.

ancorp September 15th, 2007 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 537278)
I'd sell my G36 for this. Without a doubt.

Agreed, I'd sell off almost any of my AEGs.

Moz September 16th, 2007 02:11

I do have a CM031 I'd love to trade for a G36c*, But I'd totally go with this thing instead. The Goldeneye factor is too great. KF7 action, baby.

*(don't even ask until my age verification goes through)

ancorp September 16th, 2007 07:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moz (Post 537411)
I do have a CM031 I'd love to trade for a G36c*, But I'd totally go with this thing instead. The Goldeneye factor is too great. KF7 action, baby.

*(don't even ask until my age verification goes through)

LOL, I doubt Kos would trade anyway. I believe his G36 is a TM or some other high end brand, and either way, he already has a much nicer ICS AK-74M :D

Skruface September 16th, 2007 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kokanee (Post 537265)
Ref the unicorn; I've seen the unicorn eotech 552 replica and the QC on it was complete bullocks - so I don't have alot of faith in their ability to build a complete AEG that is reliable at this time.

I do believe I read on one of the "bargain" HK-based sights (rsov, gunner's, or RMW) that the Unicorn model was in fact a body kit, and that the "complete guns" were assembled in the shops using internal parts from Chinese clones.

Ah, here it is: http://www.gunnerairsoft.com/catalog...cae3907f76655d

and confirmation from a second source: http://www.russianmaniaworkshop.com/...AKS74UCG&cat=6

The only thing that really bugs me is that with AKS74U models or kits now available from VFC, CYMA, Boyi, Inokatosu, Guarder and Unicorn, it's become the M4 of non-armalite weapons - everyone and their dog will have what was once a pretty unique piece.

Lakonian September 16th, 2007 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 537455)
LOL, I doubt Kos would trade anyway. I believe his G36 is a TM or some other high end brand, and either way, he already has a much nicer ICS AK-74M :D

My G36k is a Star. Very high-end, very hard to find. And yes, the ICS is my babeh. Hence why I'm trying everything in my power to keep her, and make 'er CQC ready.

Shit, at even 450, who can resist a FMU...correction FSU AK folder?!

Fidget11 September 16th, 2007 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 537254)
Around 100-120 USD.

:( :( :(

I also hear good things about the upcoming Unicork AKS-74U. All steel/wood. Has a more proper color on the pistol grip too.

http://www.russianmaniaworkshop.com/...AKS74UCG&cat=6

$135 US at RussianmaniaWorkshop.

O, Canada!

:(

the unicorn ak74 has got consistantly very good reviews on arnies from those who are into the chinese guns. i know if one was to appear here i would certainly put my money down on it. someone who imports into canada needs to bring them in.

ArmaliteWhore September 16th, 2007 20:51

If that thing is steel and wood and costs 120 USD it must have REALLY bad internals.

ancorp September 16th, 2007 21:10

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Originally Posted by ArmaliteWhore (Post 537719)
If that thing is steel and wood and costs 120 USD it must have REALLY bad internals.

Should be equivalent, or on par with Cyma CM02 gearbox. I have one in my TM AK. Works great, emptied a hicap in 50-150 round bursts, not a problem. As well as many std. caps.

fox34 September 17th, 2007 05:17

I'm totally agree with Ancorp

concerning Gearbox type 3 for AK
Cyma gearbox are as good as marui
for me, ACM gearbox like Jing Gong are better than marui

I have a cyma at 280 fps for 16 months and no problem
another cyma at 370 fps out of box, no problem since 8 months
and a jing gong first gen 270 fps for 12 months and no problem (new gen gearbox are better and shoot around 360 fps)
my marui at 380 fps with systema part has 3 years with no problem, I don't know if ACM gearbox will work as long, this is the only point where marui could be better....

In my association there is lot of ACM and the problem are not caused by the gearbox, often problem are from battery (bad quality) or electric wire

concerning the unikorn, as already said, this is just a kit but HK shop put ACM mechanic (like Cyma) in order to sell more

there are 3 ACM AK74SU announced actually (cyma CM035, Dboys and unikorn), lot of people think that some of this are made in the same factory and we think that Cyma and boyi use unikorn kit, but we wait confirmation

for the wood and the metal of this AK, this is better than VFC but not as good as Inokatsu but when you see the price of an inokatsu.....:smack:

dockronixion September 17th, 2007 11:10

http://aasurplus.ca/airsoft/product_...roducts_id=209 for sale at AA but none in stock right now

Skladfin September 17th, 2007 11:12

shall we all migrate to the United States?

Fidget11 September 17th, 2007 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by dockronixion (Post 537947)
http://aasurplus.ca/airsoft/product_...roducts_id=209 for sale at AA but none in stock right now

what are you smokin man... thats not any of the ones discussed in the thread. its a VFC which is what the guns we are talking about are based on.

the chinese ones should be signifcantly cheaper.

Lakonian September 17th, 2007 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fidget11 (Post 537957)
what are you smokin man... thats not any of the ones discussed in the thread. its a VFC which is what the guns we are talking about are based on.

the chinese ones should be signifcantly cheaper.

Don't bother. Kid's just a troll.

huang September 17th, 2007 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skladfin (Post 537949)
shall we all migrate to the United States?

I am considering that seriously.

Styrak September 17th, 2007 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by huang (Post 537998)
I am considering that seriously.

It would mean a lot cheaper airsoft, but then you have to deal with that stupid orange barrel rule.

Lakonian September 17th, 2007 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 538005)
It would mean a lot cheaper airsoft, but then you have to deal with that stupid orange barrel rule.

Only in certain states, apparently.

I like my free healthcare. I think I'll stay here...

Regan.S September 17th, 2007 19:14

Aye to that, ^.

ancorp September 18th, 2007 08:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by june (Post 538171)
yeah,ak47 is good ,but i prefer to awp,he he.....

Get lost troll.

Friggin' CS lovin', sig spammin' troll.

Lakonian September 18th, 2007 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 538390)
Get lost troll.

Friggin' CS lovin', sig spammin' troll.

Are you imagining things again?

ancorp September 18th, 2007 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 538467)
Are you imagining things again?

LOL, that guy was removed completely from the site it seems, during the time between my posting and yours.

Lakonian September 18th, 2007 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 538469)
LOL, that guy was removed completely from the site it seems, during the time between my posting and yours.

LOL. I'm just razzin' ya. I saw that dumbass too. But I was too pissed off to comment. Thought I'd tear a whole in the internet-universe.

TokyoSeven September 18th, 2007 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 538006)
Only in certain states, apparently.

I like my free healthcare. I think I'll stay here...

It only seems free, we pay for it in our taxes. Most provinces anyways.
When I lived in BC a few years back I actually had to pay for healthcare.

fox34 September 20th, 2007 03:13

concerning this AK

unikorn kit seems have problem with the bolt system and the wood is not good
Quote:

Wood grips- The most disappointing thing about this gun, it looks like a chimpanzee made this

Cyma 035 use bolt system of CM028 type AK47......

lot of people thinks that the Dboy is the best ot the 3

Saint_blackhand January 23rd, 2008 05:42

I would buy one or two of these bad boys, cyma stuff is good. I use one.
It would be nice to have an ak sub machine gun.
But I think 400+ is far too much for it.

Disco_Dante January 23rd, 2008 18:26

Does anyone know anything much about the Echo 1 AK CPM?
All i've heard about it is that it has CYMA 031 internals.

Sergeantmajor January 23rd, 2008 18:32

so huang, will you be bringing these in?

ChiefInTrees January 23rd, 2008 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_blackhand (Post 622770)
I would buy one or two of these bad boys, cyma stuff is good. I use one.
It would be nice to have an ak sub machine gun.
But I think 400+ is far too much for it.

A&A or 007....my guess is $600 and up

Hatori January 29th, 2008 18:12

A very interesting buy, what do others think about this gun?

Very tempted to buy this and replace alot of the internals. Would be great for CQC.

Shootsoft.ca has them in $440 shipped.

Paradise January 31st, 2008 00:29

So its has the same internals as cyma hmm think i might sell my TM ak to get this one or another cyma ak good idea? I was also wondering if you could put on a butstock like the mauri one so it can hold a larger battrie ?

Rodian April 18th, 2008 12:56

Cyma CM035a is best deal,here in South-Africa cm035a costs about R1650 (206.25 USD)it cost a bit more here because customs don't like AK's at all.

Kid April 19th, 2008 06:50

Here in China the wood version costs about $85 and the plastic grip costs about $70. The extended barrel version is the same price.

There are also two versions, an early one and a later release, but I'm not aware of what's changed.

I still haven't got around to getting one, though.

Bob the Angry Potato May 5th, 2008 23:14

Bit of a necro, but I just bought one.

Easily the best gun I've used in a while- went to a game versus three guys with stock TM AEGs, the gun easily aced all of them. While it apparently may need a bit of an internal cleaning- I have no idea where the hell this thing gets its range or accuracy, it beats my upgraded TM STEYR AUG with an m16-length barrel.

Gryphon May 6th, 2008 00:19

I think the D-BOYS AKS-74U will be my next gun. I already have the Unicorn and just picked up the CYMA one today, and so far the Unicorn is my favorite simply because it's actual blued steel. The CYMA seems to be a one for one copy of a TM system down to the Phillips head screws used to hold the trunnion to the receiver, and is mostly pot metal. Still a nice gun but doesn't look as business as the Unicorn. I'm curious to see how the D-BOYS stacks up.

durrdurrrr---- September 21st, 2008 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArmaliteWhore (Post 537719)
If that thing is steel and wood and costs 120 USD it must have REALLY bad internals.

or mayb other guns are just too overpriced :S, but even if it is bad internals there is a way around them.

Dusti69 September 21st, 2008 18:57

i been wanting one for a long time now. the kalash version runs for about $136 down here

Gryphon September 21st, 2008 19:51

Kalash = DBoys. Haven't seen a whole lot up here, they're on the board occasionally but always $400 and up. I can't justify more than three bills and change for a Chinese clone regardless of quality. So far I've been quite satisfied with my CYMA and Unicorn, the former getting the nod for most games because of its reliability. But, hot damn, does the Unicorn just simply look awesome.

Dusti69 September 21st, 2008 19:53

yea werent you the one that had a thread a while back comparing the two together?

DarkAngel September 21st, 2008 20:03

Dboys is famous for shite internals. ESPECIALLY with their AEG's.
Its gotten soo bad to the point that many of the bigger and more reliable AEG retailers in the US wont even carry them due to the constant issues these POS's are having. My suggestion is to STAY CLEAR.

Dusti69 September 21st, 2008 20:13

well then how did a "POS" become gun of the year?

Gryphon September 21st, 2008 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusti69 (Post 823596)
yea werent you the one that had a thread a while back comparing the two together?

Yep that was mine. I'd still like to get a Dboys just to complete the family. I don't know if I can justify a VFC or Inokatsu; I'm sure they're really nice but not at the price we'd pay.

I'm still waiting for someone to come out with an AKMS...

pusangani September 22nd, 2008 00:20

Lanceran on here has one of these and it is a fucking sweet gun for the price, all metal and wood, decent fps and accuracy, y the hell not?

the rear sight block is even made so u can fit a longer stick battery in the handguards, really good package for the price, basically the only mods or upgrades would be to the internals, no exterior mods necessary imo, try buying a tm ak that only needed internal mods in stock form, they dont fucking exist.

GZA September 22nd, 2008 08:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gryphon (Post 823639)
Yep that was mine. I'd still like to get a Dboys just to complete the family. I don't know if I can justify a VFC or Inokatsu; I'm sure they're really nice but not at the price we'd pay.

I'm still waiting for someone to come out with an AKMS...

G&G has a brand new AKMS out, if you weren't already aware. They shouldn't be too much if a retailer were to import them here. Word is that they're Inokatsu clones.

Gryphon September 22nd, 2008 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by GZA (Post 824013)
G&G has a brand new AKMS out, if you weren't already aware. They shouldn't be too much if a retailer were to import them here. Word is that they're Inokatsu clones.

I knew about that one, but....it's a G&G. I've seen too many broken, shoddy products from them to get my hopes up.


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