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Jugglez October 4th, 2005 17:05

Marui P226 FMU 2T (56K Beware) ... NINEBALL Under Mount Rail added
 
Marui Sig Sauer P226 Full Metal 2T

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/members...6/Img_1290.jpg

Upgrades
  • Creation Aluminum Slide/Barrel Kit w/silencer adaptor
  • Insight Technology M3 Tactical Illuminator
  • Guarder Enhanced Recoil Spring 150%
  • Guarder Enhanced Hammer Spring 150%
  • Guarder Enhanced Loading Nozzle
  • Guarder Enhanced Piston Lid (not installed yet)
  • KM Hi-flow Valve (for Marui M9 series)
  • Hogue Slip-on Grip w/finger grooves

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/members...6/Img_1291.jpg
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Creation Aluminum Slide/Barrel/Adaptor

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/members...6/Img_1275.jpg
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Very nice quality, I believe they are CNC'd. Finish is superb and uniform (better than the PGC Hi-capa slides IMO). And no modifications required for installation. :tup:

I don't plan to run a suppressor on it, so I can't give much input on the barrel adaptor. It is made from aluminum though, which is a plus.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/members...6/Img_1279.jpg
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/members...6/Img_1280.jpg

Trades look good (to me anyway :D )


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Front sight mounts on no problem. It's a little tricky to get that retainer back on, I used the smallest tipped screwdriver I could find.


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A minor problem I encountered was getting the blowback assembly to sit flush inside. (It must sit flush or the slide won't slide on the lower frame.. tolerances are pretty tight). What I did was used a 4mm punch and a small hammer and *gently* tapped it down.. little by little.. I must've of tapped it 25 times.. ;)


Lubed her up nice, and tested it with 2 mags. Both running propane, one with stock valve, the other with a KM hi-flow valve designed for the Marui M9 series (uses the same valve as the P226). The stock mag had problems cycling, it would shoot a couple then release all gas out. :( Maybe it just needs to be worked in. With the upgraded mag, it shoots like a dream. Shoots hard, crisp blowback and recoil, nice ROF. Shoots better than my upgraded Hi-CAPA. Sucks on gas though, I get only about 15-20 shots per mag fill.

One plus was the slide stop on empty mag feature works, unlike on my Hi-capa it doesn't stop... EVER!
And after 5 mags the stock piston lid (cup, head, whatever you want to call it) is holding just fine. If it does crap out I have a few Guarder Enhanced Piston Lids on the way. They're only $3 USD each btw, there's nothing holding the piston lid securely in place. It's just sits snugly on the screw at the back of the blowback mechanism. :smack:


Conclusion

Overall very happy with the finished product in terms of looks and quality. A little disappointed at the performance since it won't work with a stock mag but I can live with it... for now.


Will shoot a little video and upload it to my ASC page when I have some time. :tup:



Will update this thread with follow-up feedback as time goes on....

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NEW NINE BALL Under Mount Bases


Strike Mount
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/members...6/Img_1381.jpg
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/members...6/Img_1382.jpg

Under Mount only
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/members...6/Img_1383.jpg
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/members...6/Img_1384.jpg
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/members...6/Img_1385.jpg



Lord Jebus October 4th, 2005 17:33

Sweet pistol Jugz!
So how much did that run you in total?
Once I get My shotty working My next gun is gonna be a P226 with the full metal body.

Jugglez October 4th, 2005 17:42

Thanks man, run me about $750 CDN including the GBB.

gandar October 4th, 2005 18:07

Very sexy, very sexy indeed, God... I don't wanna think of what that's chronying at.... I'd love to see a vid of it shooting though.

Xepharo October 4th, 2005 18:53

-_-
 
gosh... thats one sexy P226 2T.
So is that lovely MP5!!!.
gj mate. :kill:

SEALs October 4th, 2005 19:36

Awesome!

Suspect187 October 4th, 2005 20:23

That gun is so damn nice :tup:

Mr Jon October 4th, 2005 20:28

God damn thats nice, i've been looking at recreating that. You did say it was FMU however the lower frame appears to be the stock plastic one. Do you have one of those on order as well because im intrested as to the various qualities of all these brands making P226 frames and such.

Syn October 4th, 2005 20:32

WOW
beautiful gun

great pics too.
ouch on the upgrade price but hey it must be a dream to shoot with once you get the mag prob fixed.

Rumpel Felt October 4th, 2005 20:47

Beautiful.

Though it sucks how you can read "Made in Japan" so clearly on the mag and frame. Damn proud Japanese.

Jugglez October 4th, 2005 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhrozeN
God damn thats nice, i've been looking at recreating that. You did say it was FMU however the lower frame appears to be the stock plastic one. Do you have one of those on order as well because im intrested as to the various qualities of all these brands making P226 frames and such.


Hey good eye. :tup: I would've went with one however I'm not at all impressed at any of the options out there.

The Prime kit doesn't include a metal barrel, and is $375 USD at most of the Asian retailers. $375 USD!!!! The PGC kit that just came out is $238 USD and needs a lot of work, and I'm already not a big fan of PGC slides... the Guarder kit looked the most promising at $120 USD however no metal barrel included, you have to paint it yourself, and the sides of the blowback assembly needs to be sanded down alot, which would probably render it useless if you ever decide to put it back in the original slide. It also isn't available yet either.

Also you'll make alot of new friends at Canada Customs if you try to get a pistol frame across the border. :D

Everyone else, thanks for compliments.

automatic45 October 4th, 2005 22:35

Thats a beautiful lookin sidearm there! damn i wish i came over couple of days after so i could have seen this! DAMMMMIIITTT! :banghead:

automatic45 October 4th, 2005 22:35

Thats a beautifull lookin sidearm there! damn i wish i came over couple of days after so i could have seen this! DAMMMMIIITTT! :banghead:

FOX_111 October 4th, 2005 22:53

WOW, I fell in love with that gun.

But the price is killing me.

I'll settle for my ordinary KJW M9 :sad:

Droc October 5th, 2005 07:40

impressive
very nice work

BloodSport October 5th, 2005 08:21

Nice work Jugglez! Now if only CanadaPost would show up tomorrow with my slide and barrel kit you sent me..... then I could post pics of almost the same upgrades but in black :P

Did you not also get in houge replacement grips like the ones I ordered through you back in August? Or did you opt out of the modifications required and go with the slip on option instead?

ILL9MIL October 5th, 2005 12:10

very nice indeed!

Burner1352 October 5th, 2005 13:43

That is very nice, can I ask where you sgot the slip on grip from???

Jugglez October 5th, 2005 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiseowl
Did you not also get in houge replacement grips like the ones I ordered through you back in August? Or did you opt out of the modifications required and go with the slip on option instead?


Actually man, I still have it sitting here. :lol: I just like the feel of that grip and haven't bothered with the other one.

Jugglez October 5th, 2005 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burner1352
That is very nice, can I ask where you sgot the slip on grip from???


http://www.handgungrips.com/ :tup:

Osss-10 October 6th, 2005 21:36

I thought there was an issue or 2 with installing the hogue full-handle replacement grips anyway... check the original 226 threads.

Looks great... didn't expect 2 tone on the sig.

Jugglez October 7th, 2005 02:10

It just needs some work to fit, I'll get it around to doing it sooner or later and post pics. :tup:

Rob October 7th, 2005 03:04

you know what you have to do now right? make jack bauer's sig: link- see bottom of page

Jugglez October 8th, 2005 15:51

Man that looks awesome :tup:



An update, I stripped her down again and put the stock hammer spring back in... the problems are now solved!!!! YEAH!!! :D Shoots nice... seems the Guarder hammer spring is too stiff, and i wasn't about to wait for it to soften up. Perhaps the Proud hammer spring would be a better solution? The stock spring performs well though so i think i'll stick with it for now.





btw, i've uploaded a video of it in action... check the first post. :tup:

Xenos-Fear October 12th, 2005 10:36

You know, it's real nice. Just like the one in Bad Boys 2, Marcus handgun. Real nice job man. Real nice. I own a P226 and you make me cry when I saw this !

:tup:

:kill:

Jugglez October 12th, 2005 18:47

Thanks. Haven't seen that movie yet. I'lll have to check it out. :tup:

rat October 12th, 2005 19:13

2 Attachment(s)
you inspired me to get the same gun damn it.

i think i will polish the metal exteriors as well as see below...

great stuff! thanks. :D

Jugglez October 12th, 2005 23:45

Any idea how you'll be polishing them?

rat October 13th, 2005 00:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jugglez
Any idea how you'll be polishing them?

well if you zoom in on the polished parts you can definitely see the black original coloring in the crevaces. i am assuming that i will be polishing it with fine grit wet/dry sandpaper...probably from 800-1500, then the whole compound/buffing thing. i have to see it closer first. i would have taken a look at my old p226 but i just sold it to malfrat. gonna wait till my new one comes in the mail...should be by early next week.

will keep you updated with pics and posts. :grin:

Jugglez October 13th, 2005 19:29

So wait, you sold your P226.. saw this thread then went out and bought another P226? :D

rat October 13th, 2005 19:46

hell ya! :tup: :tup: :tup:

btw you gotta teach me how you take your killer pictures all the time...is it all in the camera or photoshop as well.

Britinca October 13th, 2005 22:47

I have wanted a P226 for a few weeks.

After seeing this thread I want one even more....Anyone have one for sale?

rat October 13th, 2005 23:37

if you are age verified post in the wanted section. if not get age verified and check back later.

Jugglez October 13th, 2005 23:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by rat
hell ya! :tup: :tup: :tup:

btw you gotta teach me how you take your killer pictures all the time...is it all in the camera or photoshop as well.



That's all lighting and angles... no image manipulation. :tup:


The camera isn't even that good. I'm using a Canon Powershot SD10 Digital Elph 4.0MP .... Clean the lens up *good* before each photosession, make sure you've got a nice flood of light coming from the front (you'll notice most of my shots are in front of a window, on a sunny day) and snap away :tup: I also leave most of the settings off or on auto.

rat October 14th, 2005 00:53

i got the s400 digital elph 4 MP....my problem i gather is from artificial lighting...and for the love of god i cant find a decent backdrop if i wanted to... :smack:

HK_226 October 30th, 2005 09:23

Hey any problems with the hammer release when you put the gun back together? Mine seems to be rubbing against the grip plate, it works, just not very smoothly, any suggestions?

Jugglez October 30th, 2005 15:31

Check to make sure part no. P226-61 is positioned properly up inside the mechanism.. there's no guide or stopper to indicate proper positon that i know of, you just sorta have to wing it until the hammer release works the way it should.

Took me some fiddling but I did figure it out...



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ILLusion October 30th, 2005 18:46

You can align part 61 by just looking down the back of the hammer from the outside/top. Shine a light in. You'll see a silver horizontal bar. That's where #61 connects.

HK_226 October 31st, 2005 00:50

Got it working properly, thanks!! Tried it with Green Gas and 134a, the first mag with 134a worked fine, then it stopped cycling properly. With green gas everything seems normal though, guess 134a can't handle the extra spring tension.

Now I gotta wait to pick up my creation slide :D

Jugglez November 14th, 2005 14:51

Here's some pics of my p226 with new Nineball Under Mount Bases: the Strike/meatbasher version and the regular version.


Strike Under Mount
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/members...6/Img_1381.jpg
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/members...6/Img_1382.jpg


Under Mount only
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/members...6/Img_1383.jpg
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/members...6/Img_1384.jpg
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/members...6/Img_1385.jpg


Have a couple for sale if anyone is interested. :smile:

SEALs November 14th, 2005 15:40

The meatbasher looks good but the regular one not so much IMO

rat November 14th, 2005 17:32

how is the fit with the strike under mount?

does the slide hit it hard after being fired? will it damage the slide after a while (dents, chips, whatever)...?


also, STOP upgrading....im tired of pulling out my mastercard to follow your lead!
;-)

Jugglez November 14th, 2005 21:02

It fits quite good even with the aftermarket slide. there's a little adjustment screw to prevent the slide from slamming into the meatbasher.

Sorry I couldn't help it. :D

BloodSport November 15th, 2005 17:35

Bastard, I didnt realize you got your masher in before I did!!!

lol, well now I really need to get my gun all together to post the pics...... damn you Jugglez.....

ILLusion November 15th, 2005 17:37

don't worry, kip. it's on it's way... hehehe. in due time...

btw, UNCompany has Guarder metal slide/receivers in today.

Jugglez November 15th, 2005 18:13

Guarder Steel Outer Barrel

http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...sp?prodid=6700

*drools*

ILLusion November 15th, 2005 18:52

UNCompany also has Creation's STEEL slide/outer barrel as well. Imagine the blowback that sucker will have.

The price.... is NOT pretty though. :(
$270USD!!!

Jugglez November 15th, 2005 18:56

Yeah I saw that kit last week on their site. You can buy another P226 for that price :D

ILLusion November 15th, 2005 18:58

you can buy 4 P226 for the price of the Prime metal kits. :D

So when are you going to turn yours into a Jack Bauer one? with silvered bits? I want to see someone do it





... maybe i'll do it.

with a steel slide kit.

Jugglez November 15th, 2005 18:58

I'd take the 4 P226's thank you very much :)

Some dude on arnies has already done it. Looks killer.

Jugglez November 15th, 2005 19:11

BTW, for those on a budget. Action recently released a metal slide/barrel kit for $60 USD... crazy!!! It's very similar to the Creation kit. Dentrinity has it listed.

ILLusion November 15th, 2005 21:41

WGC has the action metal slide, AND lower receiver for $118usd. mad deals.

wgc description:
- Suitable for Marui P226
- Heavy weight alloy for realistic feel and powerful blowback

lamlok November 16th, 2005 11:04

action slide and frame is nono. quality is really bad when you see the real thing. all the edges on the 226 is rounded........................
i recommand pgc, no fitting is needed. just change the internals and go.
only thing needed to mod is the slide release, but easily done with a wedge in 15 min.

BloodSport November 16th, 2005 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jugglez
Guarder Steel Outer Barrel

http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...sp?prodid=6700

*drools*


Man the trades on that looks sweet......



**Disclaimer.... to those who are reading this post.... between Jugglez and Illusion your next 4 paychecks are going to be absorbed..... damn I love these 2 guys.... now to go and make some more money to give to them :cheers:

Shazee083 August 5th, 2010 03:06

hi
 
How did you manage to get the slide in to Canada isn't illegal.

dpvu August 5th, 2010 03:17

Metal slides are legal. Frames are restricted, however if you get age verified there are some floating around.

Slono September 25th, 2010 00:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by shazee083 (Post 1289773)
how did you manage to get the slide in to canada isn't illegal.

ultra necro

Styrak September 25th, 2010 01:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by slono (Post 1321460)
ultra necro

Even more necro, good job.


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