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COL.TIKER March 10th, 2012 12:13

Shoei MG42
 
Ok, like I promised during garrison night, heres pictures of my 42.
Thanks again to Jeff Baker for holding this for me for a month before I got enough to pay for it.

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...45801693_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...49561134_n.jpg

Trades
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...87707631_n.jpg

Pistol grip came with a small chip on the bottom left
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...83720698_n.jpg

Stock
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...87943911_n.jpg

Flash hider
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...38267720_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...19485637_n.jpg

This is a size comparison vs a G36 with E length barrel plus a 2cm barrel extension with fully extended stock.
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...73856857_n.jpg

dummy ammo, need more to fill up the rest of the links!
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...46879914_n.jpg

Under the top cover
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...57260318_n.jpg

Hopup adjustment
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...33966518_n.jpg

The gun and the tank it runs on
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...86040284_n.jpg

Down the irons
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...05976512_n.jpg

If someone can tell me what this thing does...
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...28813364_n.jpg

I put these red dots on the iron sights, would this be allowed? Since the Germans could of just got red paint.
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...34976213_n.jpg

If the WWII airsofters have a table at TAC12, I would like to be there with this.
Also, if anyone has any manuals/instructions on how to disassemble and maintain this thing, send it my way.

Krieg March 10th, 2012 12:26

Very Nice!

To answer your question.
Thats the AA rear sight finger, if you'd ever put the anti-aircraft spider sights on the front.

http://collectorebooks.com/jamesauct...e2/34589x1.jpg

COL.TIKER March 10th, 2012 12:35

I see, that also answers what the hole towards to front of the barrel is for lol (to plug in the AA sight).

If anyone knows where to get a sling for the 42, please let me know.

Forever_kaos March 10th, 2012 12:41

http://www.militarytour.com/Reproduc...accessrepo.htm

If you scroll down, you'll see a few. MilitaryTour is a great place.
For some reason, I have trouble loading the page.

That is one sexy beast!

Krieg March 10th, 2012 12:42

You can try asking militarytour.
I believe they have them

Curo March 10th, 2012 12:49

Very very nice, might I ask whats the price tag on such a weapon? And does it replicate the real ones insane RPM?

shiftsup March 10th, 2012 12:58

Very nice.

Please do a review. Hopefully one on how it performs in the field.

COL.TIKER March 10th, 2012 13:03

Yea, seems like I would have to contact them to buy it. I can load their website fine, but the page for the slings are showing error.

This was $2700 before taxes, free shipping. It does not have a high rate of fire, but I plan to have it modded to 1200RPM like the real one.

Hoping to be able to make it out to the April game. Will have a review after that.

Drunk_Albertan March 10th, 2012 14:05

Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.

HKGhost March 10th, 2012 14:32

Holy fuck that thing is huge. Let's mount it on my car. lol.

COL.TIKER March 10th, 2012 14:34

lmao you got a gun case this big? How will you take it back and work on it?

HKGhost March 10th, 2012 14:36

yea, I'm thinking about that right now. I guess we'll have to figure something out tomorrow. How much does it weigh? What did it come in by?

Curo March 10th, 2012 14:40

Custom gun case? I'm sure you can get a leather one custom made for sex appeal.

As for the RPM. If you get the real (or close to it) RPM I will pay to see it. I love the MG42. Such a reliable weapon and even today it would still boast effectiveness.

Yorkie March 10th, 2012 14:41

Meh...just means a longer walk to go around it... :wink:

But seriously, nice effing piece of kit mate, very nice indeed. My first two cars cost considerably less than that. Together.

COL.TIKER March 10th, 2012 15:58

Tom, the gun is 18lbs, if not more. Came in its own box, so if you got nothing else, take that. Also, you gotta take the air rig, so maybe another few lbs.

Cobalt Caliber, it should be ready for a WWII game in april. Come out to see it lol. I believe the rules are not tight about WWII uniform and weapons (probably can show up in flecktarn with an AK or something along those lines)

Yorkie, you must of bought those two cars way back in the past lol.

Andres March 10th, 2012 16:21

Hot damn!

BoGrain March 10th, 2012 16:50

Nice Mg42 - it is simply beautiful and the details on it are stunning.

Forgot the gun case, you will need a gun crate :)
http://www.john-tom.com/ReplicaFirea...nsitChest6.jpg

COL.TIKER March 10th, 2012 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoGrain (Post 1619768)
Nice Mg42 - it is simply beautiful and the details on it are stunning.

Forgot the gun case, you will need a gun crate :)
http://www.john-tom.com/ReplicaFirea...nsitChest6.jpg

Is that your's?

I am going to buy that metal sign that you are using as avatar lol

HKGhost March 10th, 2012 17:02

Yea ok, I'll see tomorrow. Did you get it running at all?

Dogfood March 10th, 2012 17:13

Very nice!!!!! To bad you didn't bring it along last night, we all would have liked to see it!!

COL.TIKER March 10th, 2012 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKGhost (Post 1619773)
Yea ok, I'll see tomorrow. Did you get it running at all?

Yes, fully operational. I just don't know how to adjust a few things, the hopop being one of them lol.


Dogfood, yea lol, the Allies had the Germans severely out-gunned last night.

BoGrain March 10th, 2012 17:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by COL.TIKER (Post 1619771)
Is that your's?

I am going to buy that metal sign that you are using as avatar lol

Unfortunately no :( but eventually yes.

B@K3R March 10th, 2012 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoGrain (Post 1619768)
Nice Mg42 - it is simply beautiful and the details on it are stunning.

Forgot the gun case, you will need a gun crate :)
http://www.john-tom.com/ReplicaFirea...nsitChest6.jpg

pure sexyness right there

Curo March 10th, 2012 23:47

Sadly I won't be able to make a WW2 kit unless I can borrow. i'm gona finalize my modern kit this year and next spring/summer will be getting into WW2.

aZn_triXta07 April 3rd, 2012 11:06

If you want to increase the ROF you need to be careful.

It's not as simple as swapping in a stronger recoil spring and cranking up the pressure.

You'd need to have an overhaul done of the internals, I'm sure the shaft is steel on this (I hope) but you would probably want everything in steel and tested.

I would have probably looked into such a project myself but $3000 on an Airsoft gun isn't practical for myself

COL.TIKER April 3rd, 2012 11:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by aZn_triXta07 (Post 1632657)
If you want to increase the ROF you need to be careful.

It's not as simple as swapping in a stronger recoil spring and cranking up the pressure.

You'd need to have an overhaul done of the internals, I'm sure the shaft is steel on this (I hope) but you would probably want everything in steel and tested.

I would have probably looked into such a project myself but $3000 on an Airsoft gun isn't practical for myself


I'll do a bit more research into that.
So far, in all of the info I've come across, no one has suggested to replace the internals. Everyone just suggests putting in a stiffer spring or some sort of buffer to reduce the length of travel.

D.Kovacs April 3rd, 2012 12:04

the internal bits are mostly brass, and you're gonna want a rubber buffer between the bolt and the chamber(should have come with one on there) as brass slamming that hard won't last too long.

COL.TIKER April 3rd, 2012 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.Kovacs (Post 1632683)
the internal bits are mostly brass, and you're gonna want a rubber buffer between the bolt and the chamber(should have come with one on there) as brass slamming that hard won't last too long.

Yes, it came with one. The manual said to keep that piece there for firing the gun without BBs but to take it away if I wanted to fire the gun with BBs. You suggest to keep it there even when firing with BBs?

D.Kovacs April 3rd, 2012 22:13

Brass is a soft metal, and I wouldn't want it to have hard contact with another peice if it were my gun. Think of it like a sorbo pad for an electric gun, I'm not sure if it's too thick to allow the gun to fire the bb's though.

COL.TIKER April 3rd, 2012 22:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.Kovacs (Post 1632988)
Brass is a soft metal, and I wouldn't want it to have hard contact with another peice if it were my gun. Think of it like a sorbo pad for an electric gun, I'm not sure if it's too thick to allow the gun to fire the bb's though.

Did some more reading on this matter. It is definitely good to have this piece, but it most likely will fall off when the gun fires(it just sits on the nozzle which goes back and forth). This piece will have to be attached to either the nozzle or the chamber. Maybe by super glue lol.

D.Kovacs April 3rd, 2012 22:39

So long as it stays, whatever you use to hold it on is the unimportant bit.

scubasteve April 4th, 2012 19:50

Did you get a fucked up feeling in your stomach when you handed over the cash like I did? lmao

COL.TIKER April 4th, 2012 20:03

lol Jeff offered me a payment plan that spanned over a month, it was bit by bit so the feeling wasnt that bad.

wildcard April 4th, 2012 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by scubasteve (Post 1633472)
Did you get a fucked up feeling in your stomach when you handed over the cash like I did? lmao

The feeling was actually along the line of - Shit I hope the wife is ok with this, maybe I can hide it!

Drunk_Albertan April 4th, 2012 21:41

Lmao, how the fu*k would you hide an MG42????

Forever_kaos April 4th, 2012 22:21

It's a lamp stand I swear hun!

scubasteve April 4th, 2012 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunk_Albertan (Post 1633541)
Lmao, how the fu*k would you hide an MG42????

I had mine sitting on my skidoo in the garage for a few weeks in the box. My girlfriend went to pick up the box on garbage day and the buzzsaw fell out. Yeah that didnt go over well.

COL.TIKER April 4th, 2012 22:57

lmao, just make up a price, they wont know.

scubasteve April 4th, 2012 23:04

I just said cheaper then the house, truck, skidoos, and hockey stuff. She knows how to pick her battles. Still haven't told her I need to buy the gas rig yet though.

Curo April 4th, 2012 23:41

Hockey stuff? Yea thats understandable but not by much. I'm a goalie and my stuff only runs around $5500 total

COL.TIKER April 4th, 2012 23:49

Lack of other hobbies = more money for airsoft! lol

Curo April 4th, 2012 23:50

I never said I paid for that gear. I got it over my last 3 hockey season (you know the ones you've pretty much stopped growing in), so my parents paid for it.

akko April 5th, 2012 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by scubasteve (Post 1633596)
I just said cheaper then the house, truck, skidoos, and hockey stuff. She knows how to pick her battles. Still haven't told her I need to buy the gas rig yet though.

dont forget the lafette mount

scubasteve April 5th, 2012 02:06

Don't remind me. lol

COL.TIKER April 5th, 2012 09:50

If you dont have the air tanks yet, I suggest getting the Ninja HPA tanks. They can adjust output to 450PSI compared to other tanks that are like 700-800PSI. This is good since the palmers regulator can only go up to 200PSI anyways. They are available in 48cui 3000PSI for around $70-80

scubasteve April 6th, 2012 02:59

Cool thanks

COL.TIKER April 19th, 2012 08:50

You can now get a Shoei MG42 for $45...

http://albertaairsoft.com/webstore/m...stery-box.html

COL.TIKER February 4th, 2013 21:28

As all of you other owners of Shoei MG42s probably already know by now, this thing fires damn slow. As in the RoF sucks. You can mod it yourself to fire faster, or you can buy a new Shoei MG42 "engine unit". Here is an email I got from Tomio Matsumoto from Shoei:
"Dear Friends,


Thank you very much for your continued patronage.



We contributed the newest video of "MG42 new engine unit" to "You Tube".

We are glad if you enjoy it.



You Tube: MG42 new engine unit.wmv - YouTube



We are desperate and are manufacturing this MG42 now.

And we also take into sale of this engine unit set for the owner of old MG42.

The early reputation to this product is very good luckily.

When you purchase this, please tell me about it at an early stage.

Although we may keep you waiting, we sell this in order of reservation.



Moreover, we have stock of some of MP43/1, MP43, and MKb42(H) model gun now.

When you get interested in these, please contact me a little early before being sold out.



I am looking forwarad to hearing from you soon.



It apologizes for having become troublesome mail to those who are not interested in this.



Thank you.



Greetings from Japan.

Besr regards,



Tomio Matsumoto

Shoei Seisakusho Inc., Japan

Address: 5-9-1 Asahi Kawaguchi Saitama 332-0001 Japan

Phone: +81 48 226 1855 Fax: +81 48 225 2133

E-mail: tomio@shoeiseisakusho.co.jp

Website: http://www.shoeiseisakusho.co.jp/"

wildcard February 4th, 2013 22:14

nice but they are about 20 years too late I sold my Shoei long time ago.

scubasteve February 4th, 2013 23:36

Top bad I had to sell mine. But now I have a none leaky septic tank :)


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