Real Sword new AR-15 AEG-Magnetic Blowback?!?
 

Hmm, first time I heard this, about Real sword making a unique AEG system for their M4/M16 (Not shape, but function)

Old news:
RS Making Magna (WA) GBBR w/ Forge T-7075 Aluminum
RS Making AEG w/ Forge T-7075 Aluminum


New news (correct me if I'm wrong)

YouTube - Redwolf Airsoft - IWA 2011 Real Sword Booth
YouTube - AATV @ IWA 2011: Real Sword
However, apparently the 'bolt' actually can be pulled. For those wonder why there's the odd stuff in front, that's the hopup chamber (Looks exactly like a Escort system)



nvm, apparently I skipped AATV's video on the RS Shoot me

gasless gbbr?

http://crookedtimber.org/wp-content/...oding-head.gif

You'd think a proper electric blowback system would be on the way. So far as I can tell, it's batteries that would hold it back--except lipos are now super cheap.

After seeing the difference between high end NiMh cells and cheap lipos, I couldn't believe what we could be missing out on.

PS: I didn't watch the videos :P

I really curious how the m4 will function and how a battery will be able to power all that.

Hm.. isn't it similar TOP shell ejecting M4 that came out recently?

edit - I just rewatched it and jeeze the bolt seems like it's very heavy.. don't think it would acually use real steel interals parts..

Really interesting. RS somehow employs the electro-magnetic mechanism currently used commercially in glass doors like in office buildings....you swipe your passcard and the door magnetic contact demagnetizes to unlock the door and after a few seconds reactivate to 'lock' it. So RS has scaled this mechanism down for EBB application. And yes, it makes sense to have a steel or aluminum receiver to withstand the constant pounding it will get with EBB. Props to RS if they can pull this off.

Realsword has produced only high quality products so this new system will only be released if it matchs their quality standard and fit it is released I "might" consider buying an M4.

seems that I'll wait to get a EBB M4 from them !!! the bolt looks HEAVY so the blowback will be crisp :D

Another thing though is that most of the parts and internal would have to be aluminum or non-magnetic rather than steel other than the bolt of course (assumption), if magnetic mechanism will be employed. Dollar translation on this could be pretty high.

This seems like a heavy bolt! It seems that they will use the same body for this special AEG and their GBB-R M4 if I've seen correct in the video.

Unfortunately, half of our Silverbacks won't be able to handle this gun due to the fact that half of them have a peacemaker :D

Win :P

Could both system be interchangeable?

Now, that would be cool.

Aargh next year is really going to be expensive. (And sooner than I thought)

just curious, what kinda mag is the ar15 aeg using?

I think I am gonna get both the aeg and gbbr.

Gah, I can't believe I missed the RS booth at IWA, where the fuck were they?

After researching NORINCOs role in PLA covert action operations, I pledged to never again by any of their products, but this is fucking tempting as hell...

Realsword ISN'T Norinco.

They just purchased one of Norinco's old factory.

The only similarities is the machinery used to create these products.

Realsword ISN'T Norinco. I agreed. somehow they gotta have some connection. Just see how they get the blueprint of type 97 from Norinco.

Probably found it in a drawer somewhere lol

Looked like a standard AEG mag to me which would be a real bonus.

yes and no...

yes because they are much more affordable and everywhere around
but
no because if you want a bolt catch you need a gbbr-ish mag style..plus you don't lose 5rounds in the hop up.

I really want the RS gas M4s..

Doesn't look like it has a bolt stop....The bolt was going back and forth with an empty mag...Yes I know if it's like a gas mag it might have a switch but I am guessing they may have a different method of locking the bolt back...Mosfet? who knows but I for one am interested in this "hybrid" Option.

If only their AEG M4 uses PTW mag...

Pending reviews and reliability, not to mention price...

yeah...that'll cost a lot for sure, but if its at least as reliable as their AKs... I'm willing to pay a high price. We'll see :p

My issue is mags as well, from the reviews I've read their AK's are finiky and picky with mags, It looks like a standard M4 AEG mag. but who knows

Oh well...if it is the only issue with them...I'm just going to buy the good brand of mags that will be known to work from the reviews :p

You can't complain about the RS AK mags though. They feed in other brands of AK and they have a stamped steel shell.

From the looks of it, it's probably going to cost $1000+. Since it's RS it's probably worth it.

I would say around 600 usd, lets hope not.
Anyway it looks like is gonna be something similar to the Top Magpul- non shell ejecting M4 of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...nRsPNlM#at=125

If it's 600 US then I wouldn't be surprised if it cost over a grand here.

If its from OWA yeah....

No about 600 here...thats what I would guess as well. Their type 56 mags are proprietary thats why you have this issue. We will see if they make them the same for their armalite. IMO opinion it is not a bad thing. Their Type 56 mags are the best I have ever seen and they feed very well.

yeah but it seems like the RS one will have heavier and crisper recoil

Well...it looks nice. I'm alway suspicious of new AR releases, though. Especially from a company that got it's reputation through building solid and reliable airsoft guns by maybe-possibly-more-than-likely had specs and parts from the real deal to work with. I don't think that's quite what's happening here, although I must admit just the sheer sound of the magazine going into that gun impressed me. That's always something I wish airsoft guns could do.

Type 56 mags work well on other TM aks. I've had aftermarket drum work fine on my Type 56. it only takes one second to convert other AK mags to work fine with my type 56 and they still work with other AK's. That being said the realsword mags put my kingsarms steel mags to shame.

Oh boy! An AR-15! We so need more of those on the market.

IMO this is an exception because it introduces a new gearbox/blowback type system that could be the next generation AEG.

I say we need more SR-15 variants.

I say we need more obscure guns rather than 50,000 versions of the same damn gun.

So apparently this is what it looks like on the inside:

http://wms.softaaja.fi/uploads/image...m16a4_aeg3.jpg

http://wms.softaaja.fi/uploads/image...m16a4_aeg4.jpg

http://wms.softaaja.fi/uploads/image...m16a4_aeg5.jpg

Original LINK.

I think this is going to be my first AEG...

PTW-esque. And I see what looks like a bolt catch. Gonna have to keep my eye on this one :D

Me like..... must buy...

What does the gear attach to?

Very interesting.

my guess is that its electro magnetic

They are not showing a portion of the internals, prolly still having their patents done.

That looks really slick, I wouldn't mind picking one of these up!

I love my WE 416 and this might just be another AR, but it's very interesting. Definitely keeping my eye out on this one.

hmm... definitely going to hold off AEG m4 for me until this gets out....Base on Real Sword's record on AEG, they can definitely compete against High end AEG like CTW, if not PTW

Wow, very nice. but seems quite complicated. I really like how they make the receiver, that's some serious durability.

Are there any other companies that mill out their m4 receivers from a solid block like that?
im thinking maybe PTW. I have a VFC but i think it is still a cast receiver.

I think Inokatsu does it too.

Save your money for the RS Ar-15. PTWs receivers are pot metal. really makes you wonder where all your money is going to...

This looks promising. Lets hope they use some sort of ECU under there! It's going to be expensive already.... why not make it a PTW competitor, and win?!

I told myself I wouldn't buy an M4 variant unless it was a PTW, or CTW... now I might have another option to add to that list :)

Please don't disappoint me RS!

except Inokatsu didn't cnc out the seam...really noticable on the magwell. Even aftermarket receiver, none of PTW ones are good as forged, Forged means the metal is compressed thus stronger than a block of aluminium mill out.

http://www.nlairsoft.com/images/stor...M16-manual.jpg

http://www.nlairsoft.com/images/stor...-M4-manual.jpg

Original LINK.

So its actually a GBBR?

There's two version,
One is AEG, another is GBBR

The AEG is shown in M16 (I haven't seen a picture of RS AR AEG aside from M16)
The GBBR is shown in M4

They'll probably have aeg and GBB ver. of both guns since they're basically the same gun apart form the front end and stock.

Yeees...because we enjoy paying $50 per magazine. :p

The youtube video said it... and if that's not enough the picture above your post also mentioned it.
I'm suspecting the fixed stock is used because of the system design requires extra space. We'll see in the end
I think this is kinda like required, otherwise make another magazine that has bolt stop feature. It makes a turn off for some if it has all the goodies and failed to have a anti-dryfire function

I see an M4a1 in the AEG page. In fact I see a few.

This is really interesting. If they pull this off for the AEG, it would eliminate the issue with gas and low temperature. Freezing problem too perhaps. Only time will tell if there will be a shift back to AEG with this hybrid design.

Velocity advertised as >395, let's all hope it's listed as 407+ when it's released.

Are there any Real Sword vendors left here in Canada? There were some but they seemed to have disappeared.

Lets see the damn thing shoot already!

Whoa...I just noticed this. The OneWorld Airsoft site is gone too. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't they the main importer / distributor of Real Sword stuff?

You can get them, no one will tell you how. Get AV'd.

I heard that the company got busted, is it true?

I don't see how they could have got busted because they were importing as unrestricted firearms.

But, I might be wrong.

Real Sword still exists in Canada.. To find out more information visit your local AV'er and they will tell you. I would strongly suggest you guys not discuss retailers any further outside of AVed forums.


Very sexy, would be nice if they made it in a CQB length..

Uhhh if they import unrestricted firearm, then there's the issue, you need license for it.

All be very few extreme Airsoft guns fall under uncontrolled firearm and replicas


Back on topic please folks,

Uncontrolled firearm =/= replica.

http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/news2/23987

Dr Mugen's recoil system for AEG's? Something similar?

Fucking gay. That's a vibrator.

Aren't all EBB's like that though?

i really hope thats not what the RS will turn out to be:s

Yea, that's why we are all excited about this RS one, it might be better.

or we are hoping. (that's one reason anyways)

From the internal lower receiver, it looks like RS either gonna make new mags or use PTW mags.
EBB...that will mean more moving parts, hope RS will have a rugged system. The sector gear in the center of the gear box, and the teeth is not helical, kinda disapointed me there, the torque could be low. Then again, it's a prototype.
I am getting the EBB one for sure.

I think that it might be a cross between a PTW and a spring bolt action. The gear would cycle the outside of a PTW cylinder into the buffer tube. It would snag a internal piston on a sear (inside the cylinder). Then the Cylinder would return to battery. The cylinder would look like a AR-15 bolt.

The problem with that would be small air volume, and you would a big ass motor and power source. I'm not sure if I made a decent description.

I'm pretty sure they will have a working bolt stop. You can see the bolt stop in the lower receiver. It would be nice to see PTW design mags, but I'd end up getting the Real Sword mags anyway.

I pretty much just ignored the magnetic part, unless you count the motor. The only way I could see using a magnetic force on the bolt would be a coil or rail gun like design. If their design is anything decent I'll end up buying one.

Realsword new products Sneak peaks
 

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Repost from RA enjoy!

nice stuff Ken, I am willing to sell me kidney for that type 88