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Stealth November 26th, 2013 16:35

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Originally Posted by GBBR (Post 1850499)
i got one :) wanna buy it lol

1) Has it been molested?
2) $400?

But seriously. Has anybody upgraded the shit out of this thing yet?
Thinking aloud - I wonder how the buffer spring interacts with the main spring - does it speed up piston return time? Does it add spring force?

GBBR November 26th, 2013 17:02

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Originally Posted by Stealth (Post 1850513)
1) Has it been molested?
2) $400?

But seriously. Has anybody upgraded the shit out of this thing yet?
Thinking aloud - I wonder how the buffer spring interacts with the main spring - does it speed up piston return time? Does it add spring force?


well, I lied I had 4, one has been tuned my Magic box and the other 3 are just stock.

other than MB, I dont think anyone has modded these before, their trigger response is horrid tho :/

p.phresh December 10th, 2013 16:11

i brought in a few of these because the Scouts didn't see very well, but turns out I had all but one sold before they even arrived. So I've got 1 left. If you're interested email/PM me. Price will be the same as the Scout model.

Stealth December 10th, 2013 16:18

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Originally Posted by GBBR (Post 1850517)
well, I lied I had 4, one has been tuned my Magic box and the other 3 are just stock.

other than MB, I dont think anyone has modded these before, their trigger response is horrid tho :/

Trigger response with MB parts still horrid?
Was the gearset replaced?

Wrath144 December 12th, 2013 01:42

Stealth, just get a BOLT. Less proprietary, and REAR WIRED!

Stealth December 12th, 2013 08:46

While I haven't tried the Bolt yet, here's what I liked about the KWA ERG series.

* Actual quick-change spring system - remove the buffer tube a la real steel and swap springs
* Feeds every single round out of the mag
* Improved balance, weight and feel over any other AR15 AEG on the market
* Magpul-licensed body = authentic trademarks
* Backwards compatible with standard AEG magazines
* Stops firing upon last round (only if used with ERG magazines)
* Relatively cheap ERG magazines compared to PTS PMags
* Configurable 30/60round magazine capacities
* Relatively strong recoil (given what it is)

This system has some serious potential - ditch the recoil feature, up the ROF to 30+, add a computerized AB FET and the platform becomes VERY attractive.

BioRage December 12th, 2013 09:00

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Originally Posted by Stealth (Post 1853965)
This system has some serious potential - ditch the recoil feature, up the ROF to 30+, add a computerized AB FET and the platform becomes VERY attractive.

But the recoil is what makes this ERG unique :cool:

Stealth December 12th, 2013 10:19

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Originally Posted by BioRage (Post 1853966)
But the recoil is what makes this ERG unique :cool:

I agree with you.
I wonder if the system can do 30rps though. Will have to screw with it over the holidays/January.

p.phresh December 12th, 2013 11:58

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Originally Posted by Stealth (Post 1853984)
I agree with you.
I wonder if the system can do 30rps though. Will have to screw with it over the holidays/January.

I'm curious to see if this is actually possible. I'm sure playing with battery, and motor you can get a fairly high RPM for this. I think the limiting factor will be the Recoil function of this, but eliminating the recoil will just defeat the purpose of this gun.... if that was the case, you might as well be starting off with a G&P Magpul M4.

Stealth December 12th, 2013 12:03

A G&P Magpul M4 does not even begin to compare to the KWA RM4...

The recoil isn't the only thing the ERG has going for it (see post 36)

Crimzzen December 12th, 2013 16:31

I don't understand the point to ramping up a guns RoF to 30. Can someone explain to me what the actual benefit is? (No offense or sarcasm meant, I'm curious).

From my perspective, 15rps gets the job done just fine, you're still going to hit your target with weight of fire. Heck, semi-auto is, more often than not, fine. I just don't see the point in emptying your mag faster and increasing wear & tear. Am I missing something else?

cetane December 12th, 2013 17:39

Faster rof = faster trigger response in semi. Fastest you can get practically is a 10:1 dsg on 11.1 battery. Can be stupid rof but 5.xx turns of motor is one shot.

Crimzzen December 18th, 2013 14:11

Anyone know which magpul rail sections would fit on the hand guard?

These? Looking to mount a laser.
http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG406/103

Zack The Ripper December 18th, 2013 14:37

Yes, that will fit: There are several GTA retailers that carry full sets of different lengths of MOE rails for hand guards in black and DE for very cheap. I got a set of each for $10-15 each (can't remember exactly).

Crimzzen December 18th, 2013 16:25

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Originally Posted by Zack The Ripper (Post 1855275)
Yes, that will fit: There are several GTA retailers that carry full sets of different lengths of MOE rails for hand guards in black and DE for very cheap. I got a set of each for $10-15 each (can't remember exactly).

Thanks Zack


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